View Full Version : Oh God, 150 of those Russian child hostages are dead
Suomi
03-09-2004, 06:18 PM
:(
Bill CLinton is also in hospital with chest pains. Despite my inital reaction, this is not good news. I apologise to the Clinton family and all invovled.
rural juror
03-09-2004, 06:18 PM
at LEAST 150
and Clinton :(
Suomi
03-09-2004, 06:19 PM
oh nothat was mean, I like Bill.
It just seems like lighter news in comparison
:moopy:
Although I'm ashamed to say I haven't followed the news at all. What child hostages?
Still, children killed is always :moopy:
rural juror
03-09-2004, 06:21 PM
there were up to 1200 held hostage apparently, so the number could rise significantly.
rural juror
03-09-2004, 06:21 PM
oh nothat was mean, I like Bill.
It just seems like lighter news in comparison
ok :D
Toyah
03-09-2004, 06:22 PM
Why the :D for Bill Clinton? I'd rather we still had him as US President!
Raining On Me
03-09-2004, 06:24 PM
Has this happened just now or something? It was on the news this afternoon that nearly all the hostages had been taken out and most were alive!
rural juror
03-09-2004, 06:25 PM
they found 'up to' 150 bodies in the gym apparently. been on this afternoon
Suomi
03-09-2004, 06:26 PM
i said i wa SORRY
and VOR - Checnyian (sp?) rebels took over a school in southern Russia last night and were making all sorts of demands , it all seems to have come to a head a few hours ago
rural juror
03-09-2004, 06:27 PM
was it only last night it started? :o seems to have been going on for ages
Suomi
03-09-2004, 06:27 PM
Has this happened just now or something? It was on the news this afternoon that nearly all the hostages had been taken out and most were alive!
yes, i never heard that story....all i heard before was that SOME hostages were released in small doses
Dr Lecter
03-09-2004, 06:28 PM
Bill CLinto is a LEGEND
I wasnt his book for my birthday , but i may get it on cd so i can skip to the FILTH
Suomi
03-09-2004, 06:28 PM
Why the :D for Bill Clinton? I'd rather we still had him as US President!
or his wife thank you very much
Suomi
03-09-2004, 06:29 PM
Bill CLinto is a LEGEND
I wasnt his book for my birthday , but i may get it on cd so i can skip to the FILTH
richard madeley really got stuck into the filth bit in his interview with him. "so you slept on the couch after that I suppose"? :D
rural juror
03-09-2004, 06:30 PM
or his wife thank you very much
double edged sword for this election though, I want Kerry to win, but if he does its at least 8 years till she can get the job. Bush gets in, she could take over in 4
octophone
03-09-2004, 06:30 PM
It's become obvious as the day has worn on that there are many casualties. Very sad indeed, yet, did anyone honestly expect this to end any other way?
Dr Lecter
03-09-2004, 06:30 PM
OOh Hilary as President would be MOST pleasing
Raining On Me
03-09-2004, 06:33 PM
they found 'up to' 150 bodies in the gym apparently. been on this afternoon
Fucking hell...on the BBC news about six hours ago it said they'd taken nearly all the hostages out and they had sent armed officers or whatever in there...it was mostly the hostage takers standing their ground. Suppose that was rough guesswork at the time then...
rural juror
03-09-2004, 06:34 PM
I'm just watchimg it now, the information seems to be changing every ten minutes. 700 in hospital at the moment, about half of them are children.
Suomi
03-09-2004, 06:35 PM
double edged sword for this election though, I want Kerry to win, but if he does its at least 8 years till she can get the job. Bush gets in, she could take over in 4
And by the reaction Bush's speech got last night, it looks like Hilary will be having her chance in 4 years!
Kerry should really just shut up about the past wars though, late last night he hosted a kneejerk reaction rally in which he went on and on about Vietnam and it all sounded so desperate
Toyah
03-09-2004, 06:35 PM
Russian security forces aren't very good with dealing with sieges are they. There was that theatre siege a couple of years ago where 100s died and now THIS!
belgo
03-09-2004, 06:36 PM
:(
HORRIBLE!
rural juror
03-09-2004, 06:37 PM
And by the reaction Bush's speech got last night, it looks like Hilary will be having her chance in 4 years!
Kerry should really just shut up about the past wars though, late last night he hosted a kneejerk reaction rally in which he went on and on about Vietnam and it all sounded so desperate
Neither are ideal I know, but if Bush gets in its a vindication of whats happened over the last four years. I blame Schwarzenegger, TWAT! did you see his speech?
Toyah
03-09-2004, 06:37 PM
And by the reaction Bush's speech got last night, it looks like Hilary will be having her chance in 4 years!
Kerry should really just shut up about the past wars though, late last night he hosted a kneejerk reaction rally in which he went on and on about Vietnam and it all sounded so desperate
That's all I've ever heard him talk about! Plus the fact he makes paint drying look interesting. I predict a Bush LANDSLIDE!
Agnetha
03-09-2004, 06:37 PM
This wouldn't happen in the USSR!
Suomi
03-09-2004, 06:40 PM
This wouldn't happen in the USSR!
funny you should say that as my brother said precisely those words. And you have a point, you wouldn't get any of this shit under Lenin...*
*though of course he'd have practice with terrorists having murdered 90 million people :manson:
rural juror
03-09-2004, 06:40 PM
At least 150 people are reported to have died at a school in southern Russia where Chechen separatists had been holding hundreds of hostages.
Dozens of corpses were seen outside a local morgue, and the number of dead is expected to rise further.
Heavy gunfire and loud explosions were heard throughout the morning as Russian troops stormed the school, in the town of Beslan in North Ossetia.
Russian troops are fighting to free children still held hostage.
The BBC's Jonathan Charles in Beslan reports hearing more loud blasts in the area of the school after a period of relative calm.
There is confusion over what sparked the operation, which was unplanned.
Correspondents say the day's events have taken Moscow by surprise.
Kerry's own policies are barely relevant. The massive anti-Bush movement is really his only shot. I would like him to get it though, ANYTHING is better than Bush.
Suomi
03-09-2004, 06:42 PM
Neither are ideal I know, but if Bush gets in its a vindication of whats happened over the last four years. I blame Schwarzenegger, TWAT! did you see his speech?
oh God yes, I heard Schwazebugger's speech on the radio, went down very well I hear.
The fact that a brainless muscle mary and a rednecked yokel are the two most powerful men in America is quite funny in a :zombie: way
Homer Simpson was right though - "Only in America could a guy like me be employed" :D
Heavy gunfire and loud explosions were heard throughout the morning as Russian troops stormed the school, in the town of Beslan in North Ossetia.
Russian troops are fighting to free children still held hostage.
There is confusion over what sparked the operation, which was unplanned.
Correspondents say the day's events have taken Moscow by surprise.
Armed rebels are holding children histage! Get the guns and CHARGE!
rural juror
03-09-2004, 06:44 PM
'and vot did Bush do to terrorism? he terminated it'
What does Bush say about re-election? I'll be back'
His speech was painful, and they fell for it, FREAKS :daf:
He REALLY said that? Mother of GOD.....
rural juror
03-09-2004, 06:46 PM
He REALLY said that? Mother of GOD.....
Paraphrased slightly, but he used the 'terminate terrorism' and Bush saying 'I'll be back' yes
Suomi
03-09-2004, 06:47 PM
Kerry's own policies are barely relevant. The massive anti-Bush movement is really his only shot. I would like him to get it though, ANYTHING is better than Bush.
He had the easiest election in the world if you think about, all her had to do was ride the anti-Bush wave and it'd be plain sailing. Instead he concentrates on his participation in past wars, which may or may not be as heroic as he claims!
I know this might sound stupid, but I sometimes think the rest of the world should get to vote in this election. Like it or lump it, AMerica is the strongest and most powerful nation on this Earth and who they choose as a leader will affect the rest of us greatly...we should get a say whether we want Bush to fight this 'war', which in reality is just him geting rid of the countries he's never heard of
Gavin
03-09-2004, 06:48 PM
Russian security forces aren't very good with dealing with sieges are they. There was that theatre siege a couple of years ago where 100s died and now THIS!
A tad unfair perhaps. The theatre siege was a grave error of judgement on behalf of the security forces, yes, but this was altogether different. Events of this nature are difficult even for the most expertly trained forces. Today's response was not planned, but was a reaction to the particular circumstances they were being faced with. When the first batch of kids jumped out the window and ran for safety, what began as an attempt to shield them from gunfire escalated into a full on offensive. A gap emerged in the militants' organisation which had to be exploited. You cant plan for these things. There is no textbook way of dealing with it. I think they did what they could and did it rather well. Its was always going to end in tragedy. No matter what action was taken.
My only criticism would be that the Russian forces should not have allowed civilians to adopt front line positions. The choas which ensued did little to help anyone in taking out the militiants effectively.
Dr Lecter
03-09-2004, 06:49 PM
Bush will so win again :manson:
I wouldn't be the least surprised if this was "inspired" by Al-Qaida...
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1963&e=2&u=/ap/20040901/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_keyes_cheney_s_daughter
Keyes: Cheney's Gay Daughter Is a Sinner
NEW YORK - Illinois Republican Senate candidate Alan Keyes (news - web sites) labeled homosexuality "selfish hedonism" and said Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites)'s lesbian daughter is a sinner.
The former talk show host who has made two unsuccessful runs for the White House made the comments Monday night in an interview with Sirius OutQ, a satellite radio station that provides programming aimed at gays and lesbians.
After saying homosexuality is "selfish hedonism," Keyes was asked if that made Mary Cheney "a selfish hedonist."
"Of course she is," Keyes replied. "That goes by definition."
Liz Cheney, Mary's sister, refused to comment Wednesday during an interview on CNN.
"I guess I'm surprised, frankly, that you would even repeat the quote, and I'm not going to dignify it with a comment," she told the interviewer.
The Log Cabin Republicans (news - web sites), a gay and lesbian organization, denounced Keyes' remark.
"In a political career defined by failures, this is a new low for Alan Keyes," executive director Patrick Guerriero said in a statement Wednesday. "Attacking politician's children is beyond the pale, even for an extremist like Alan Keyes."
In the days before the Republican National Convention, Dick Cheney spoke at some length about the fact that Mary is a lesbian and his view of gay relationships. His tacit support for states' rights on the issue of same-sex marriage and less-than-ringing endorsement of President Bush (news - web sites)'s push for a constitutional amendment to ban gay unions drew criticism from several conservative groups.
Agnetha
03-09-2004, 06:51 PM
Yer know I watched all that stuff in Russia without a hint of emotion... I think we're becoming immune... Or I am anyway..
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