Why does Jacko have the SMUGGEST fans?

[Suedehead]

It's not just Mike actually. Janet's fans have an air of smugness too.

I know it's a case of pot-kettle-black (hello Madge fan) but it's just something I noticed. Yeah, he's talented blah blah but it's no reason for the fans to vicariously live through it to that extent. And it doesn't explain the Janice fans 'cause clearly her biggest talents are in miming and moaning. *runs and hides from belgo*

[Suedehead]

A Jacko fan, yesterday, after listening to "Billie Jean".

http://www.jongleurs.com/what/images/smug.jpg

Ignore me I've been on the booze.

[Ellie]

I'm just PROUD :D

[Edward]

You know who the coolest fans are?

Prince ones.

Shame they don't exist any more... :(

[Suedehead]

I know. I get that too with Madge. :shy:

[Suedehead]

You know who the coolest fans are?

Prince ones.

Shame they don't exist any more... :(
Actually sir, YOU fit the SMUG bill perfectly.

[Ellie]

Jacko fans never listen to Billie Jean. Dance at parties, yes. Listen in private? Only the 12" version, the "Live Extended Studio Version", the original demo (not the one on Thriller SE) or any tour version except fro ones with Sheryl Crow wailing like a CAT in the background :D ;)

[Ellie]

m_b is the smuggest person on Moopy apart from Cwej :evil:

[Edward]

m_b is the smuggest person on Moopy apart from Cwej :evil:

Aww, I didn't expect a personal insult from you Ellie.

i'll know *never* to say anything anti-Jacko ever again. My bad.

[Ellie]

Absolutemondo *sharpens knives*

[Edward]

:(

[Ellie]

Then don't post bloody Prince vs. Jacko polls, because in my experience, it is ALWAYS instigated by Prince fans wanting to spread some pretentious superiority around the place *GAGS*

Shove yer 18 minute instrumental jams up yer ARSE :D

[Suedehead]

Jacko fans never listen to Billie Jean. Dance at parties, yes. Listen in private? Only the 12" version, the "Live Extended Studio Version", the original demo (not the one on Thriller SE) or any tour version except fro ones with Sheryl Crow wailing like a CAT in the background :D ;)
Smug Jacko fan that only slags off the lovely Sheryl because she may or may NOT have said some remarks about their precious idol.

Actually Sheryl Crow is one backstabbing bitch. She attended Madge's Music launch party and took pictures like gal pals blah blah and I think she slagged her off after the whole Britney thing (but then, who didn't?). Still. Backstabbing wailing bitch.

[Suedehead]

You can just *tell* that m-b is a Prince fan. Smug City. :zombie:

[Edward]

I'm sorry but you cannot tell me the man is not a genius.

I thought that was undisputed.

[Ellie]

Sheryl Crow never said anything about MJ :confused: She was just a SHIT back-up singer. Honestly, you should hear her diabolical vocals for Billie Jean. It's PAINFUL to watch on video. I have all her studio albums though.

[Edward]

Anyway this forum was in danger of becoming too lovey dovey.

Ellie, you need an adversary here.

[Ellie]

Like hell I do. That's why I finally banned Commocunt from my place.

[Suedehead]

I have that Q interview/cover story she did for The Globe Sessions. I remember she said that he never called her by her name and she worked with him for so and so months, which she found odd. Also at some point during the interview MJ comes up on a TV or something and she says something like, "There he is. Mr. Popular." But she also says later that when he entered the room the energy shifted and you felt his star power.

I remember far too many unimportant things.

m-b you're a SMUG GIT. How's that for unlovely dovey? :zombie:

[Suedehead]

I'm sorry but you cannot tell me the man is not a genius.

I thought that was undisputed.
I'd say he was a genius.

Then he went full on mental.

And now he's just... blah.

[Ellie]

I have that Q interview/cover story she did for The Globe Sessions. I remember she said that he never called her by her name and she worked with him for so and so months, which she found odd. Also at some point during the interview MJ comes up on a TV or something and she says something like, "There he is. Mr. Popular." But she also says later that when he entered the room the energy shifted and you felt his star power.

I remember far too many unimportant things.

LIAR. How would she explain her getting in his limo and visiting Roosevelt Elementary School in 1988 with him? Or the fact that he introduced her by name ever night on the tour along with the rest of the band??? It's like Lisa-Marie and her funny stories about it being a bad break-up, despite travelling around the world with him and staying in his bloody hotel up to 3 years later :manson:

How's THAT for remembering unimportant things? :D

[Edward]

Ellie, the depth of your knowledge on all things Jacko is scary.

:D

[Suedehead]

LIAR. How would she explain her getting in his limo and visiting Roosevelt Elementary School in 1988 with him? Or the fact that he introduced her by name ever night on the tour along with the rest of the band??? It's like Lisa-Marie and her funny stories about it being a bad break-up, despite travelling around the world with him and staying in his bloody hotel up to 3 years later :manson:


Poor Michael.

This reminds me of Dennis Rodman's filthy sordid lies about Madonna faxing him erotic doodles and begging him to have his child when it turns out they actually only did it once and he, er, didn't live up to her expectations.

Anyway I think Sheryl also said that she never got to deal with MJ directly - it was always "his people" saying that "Mr. Jackson wants this and that" etc.

Or maybe I'm confusing her with someone else. :|

[Ellie]

These bints think that photographs and eyewitness accounts don't MATTER when they run their mouths off in interviews :p BITTER me thinks.

[Ellie]

Maybe MJ was pissed that she got her place on the tour because she was shagging his keyboard player, and she had silly little catfights with Tatiana backstage.

[Suedehead]

Maybe MJ was pissed that she got her place on the tour because she was shagging his keyboard player, and she had silly little catfights with Tatiana backstage.
LOL

Is it true though? :shy:

[Ellie]

Sheryl Crow is very talented and I'm glad she found her niché later on, but she was a groupie whore for a LONG time.

[Suedehead]

Sheryl Crow is very talented and I'm glad she found her niché later on, but she was a groupie whore for a LONG time.
And she shagged Eric Clapton when he was all wrinkly. Ew.

[Commotion]

Ellie, the depth of your knowledge on all things Jacko is scary.

:D

Wait until you hear her explanation of how the $20,000,000 payoff to the Chandler family 10 years ago is evidence of his innocence. That is truly scary - but sort of in a rabid born again christian type of way.

[Ellie]

You mean scary in a kind of "having read through the court documents and looked up all the meanings and implications of the facts" kind of way.

[belgo]

Who's trying to bash queen Janet in here? :angry:

I agree about the miming part though,she's turning into Britney. While touring she does sing most of the songs live and she isn't bad at all. :smoke:

[Commotion]

You mean scary in a kind of "having read through the court documents and looked up all the meanings and implications of the facts" kind of way.

No I mean scary in the "reading up and studying the legal system of a foreign country for absolutely no other reason than to make deranged, inconsistent arguements about the paedophilia allegations against a faded pop star you will never meet" kind of way.

I mean at least if you were studying law for career purposes there would be a point. But once/if Jacko is jailed and banged up in a maximum security prison for paedophiles (or maybe not - there may be payoffs like in the last case - then again you have lost your reason and think this is evidence of his innocence) then what possible benefit will all your knowledge of the criminal justice system in the US actually have PoorEllie dear?

[Ellie]

And you study the Gap because you're planning a trip to Africa or an organised protest against sweatshops?

What possible benefits does visiting forums where nobody likes you have? What possible benefits do working in a place where you're not respected, appreciated or even required have?

[Commotion]

And you study the Gap because you're planning a trip to Africa or an organised protest against sweatshops?

Well I am a member of the Clean Clothes Campaign which is a Dutch group campaigning for better work conditions in the sweatshops in the clothing companies which currently use slaves. The Gap/Levi's/H&M/Nike etc etc are actively campaigning to hinder this type of groups work. They prefer to use huge PR companies to argue their cases.

I'm also an occasional member of Amnesty intenational


What possible benefits do working in a place where you're not respected, appreciated or even required
A big, fat monthly wage.

I am taking money for nothing from a multinational but at least no-one is being harmed except my poor, little, multi-billion dollar company.

Now answer the questions I've put to you in the same manner I've answered yours PoorPoorEllie

[Ellie]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/3/3_8_12v.gif

[Ellie]

... then concentrate on THOSE instead of making up theories that contradict documented facts on something so unworthy like the MJ case.

[Commotion]

... theories that contradict documented facts

But that's you PoorPoorEllie. It is you who maintain that the $15,000,000 that Michael Jackson paid to Jordan Chandler in 1994 to silence the child sex abuse allegations against him rather than defending his own name is evidence that jacko is innocent. And thanks to your obsessive (but pointless and ridiculous) consumption of US legal books you've managed to convince yourself.

It makes you look like your grip on reality is diminishing rapidly (I mean if this was a family member or friend I'd understand but Jacko is a total stranger to you and always will be - ooops hope you've not managed to convince yourself that he means more than that)

[Ellie]

And you've STILL completely mis-read the point, mis-interpreted the reason for the settlement, the facts stated in the agreement - mis-interprested EVERYTHING... or have you not even BOTHERED to look to see what you have to interpret in the first place? I guess not. It's like getting a blind man to do a crossword puzzle alone.