Corrie Rate 2008 - Results

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A slightly expanded list this time with a top 62. 13 new entries, starting soon :o

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(58) 62. Kayleigh Morton - 1.192

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Watching the Morton's for the last year or so was not dissimilar to watching a puppy getting sicker and sicker and waiting for it die, except puppies might be cute and you might mourn their passing. There's no doubt some aspects of the family were improving but they still remain one of Corries biggest mistakes in recent years. For Kayleigh Morton, the woe was intensified with terrible kiddie gang storylines and having to kiss Chesney.

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and the younger daughter now. Its worth saying at this point as the second Morton family member that comes up, that its not SO unusual for new families to be hated on Corrie, the Mcdonalds were pretty much reviled until Liz McDonalds Miscarriage showed a sofetr side, and the Battersbvies had campaigns to have them axed after the first week (sad it took so long for Les to go but there you go). so anyway, Kayleigh, she erm... shes THERE

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(NE) 61. Harry Mason - 2.000

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Too late for inclusion last year and only scraping into this years list before getting axed. The Mortons were a huge mistake but this family were not far behind. Another doomed attempt by Corrie to bring in strong male characters, essentially this seemed like an attempt to shoehorn a Baldwinesque character in. But Baldwin was built up over the years, he was layered. Theye tried to make the Mason's funny, it didn't work, they tried to make them dramatic, didn't work, so off they go.
Harry's relationship with Liz McDonald didn't work because nobody cared about him or Vernon particularly, it was an exercise in apathy for most viewers having to sit through it. His ex-wife was dull and dislikable and did nothing to gain sympathy of empathy for the family, and they'd already been axed when she arrived anyway. Corrie is well rid.

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(NE) 60. Natasha - 2.100

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Not as if being this low is shocking as she has made evry few appearances and hasn't even been given a surname yet. A new stylist in Audrey's Salon (THe actress used to be in Holby hence the picture). I reckon if she is developed she'll be much higher in the next rate!

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I have no recollection of seeing Natasha in the show AT ALL. Also why would you go from Holby City regular to bit part Corrie EXTRA?

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Oh and YAY for this thread.

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(51) 59. Bill Webster - 2.154

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A deserved fall, dull character badly acted. This years highlights have been him splitting with Audrey in a series of dull scenes and with zero impact on the viewers, and occasionally being seen with the Websters to pretend he has any relevance to the storylines surrounding them. Hes been around far too long on this stint and surely is ripe for the axe again?

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and the first long standing cast member falls, and thank god as hes AWFUL, since he first arrived about 25 years ago hes had about 3 years, a year at a time. I like to think its because the producers bring him back, realise hes still shit, and axe him. For me the nadir of this character was when he suddenly turned lothario and stole away Maureen from Fredd Elliott within about a week of their wedding. They brought him back as Craig Harris did a runner from Paris and hes now living with Audrey Roberts (anyone with ANY idea of the past in Corrie will know that this is just RIDICULOUS in so many ways - if ever a case of chucking together two people for simplicitys sake this is it) and still unable to talk and act at the same time

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(48) 58. Sean Tully - 2.462

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Another welcome drop, as if we had believed that this character couldn;t be made any MORE intenselt dislikeable, we get the double whammy of Violet running off with his son, which he was devastated about for an episode or two, but seems to have forgotten about it completely now (Yes the story deserves forgetting but continuity would be nice too) This followed by the relationship with Marcus ending, and him showing absolutely NO concern for it within an episode. If they are trying to make him seem more vacuous, fickle and narcissistic they;re doing a damn good job, though I can't help but wonder how much of this is down to his inability to express any l;evel of emotion beyond High camp.

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GAY SATAN :Oi: what seems to often be ignored when he wins best actor newcomer etc... is that HE CAN'T ACT.
hes awful. you watch QAF, his chat show, the dire bbc3 sitcom and realise that this is HIM. you want a mincing queen, he does a good job I grant you. you want a heart wrenching story? baby woes? fake dad? oh well you still get camp queen anyway. A shit actor who I can aonly assume is loved by the grannies who yearn for Larry Grayson to return. I'm NOT a fan!

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(NE) 57. Dan Mason - 2.500

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Well the comment on Harry also applies greatly to Dan. Two characters brought in with seemingly NO idea of what to do with them. So we have bizarre episodes seeming to focus on Dan's High heel fetishes, the odd couple scenario of him living with his dad, occasionaly relationships (Hello Mrs glorified extra Kelly, you got on screen, go you!) and an incredibly mismatched Leanne coupling which was painful to watch through lack of Chemistry. Even his exit was dull, do you want to buy my bookies? Yes please, ok bye :)
Well rid!

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I did not even know he had LEFT? I am so out of the Corrie loop.

One thing I have noticed though is they seem to have made Michelle rubbish these days, which is a shame because she had great potential to be amazing!

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I did not even know he had LEFT? I am so out of the Corrie loop.

One thing I have noticed though is they seem to have made Michelle rubbish these days, which is a shame because she had great potential to be amazing!

Oh I'll have LOTS to say on her :evil:

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(49) 56. Ashley Peacock - 2.615

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A mercifully quiet year for Ashley, with the only real Peacock story dominated by his wife. Now she is on maternity he's all but disappeared save for the odd Rovers or butchers scene. Its a shame when a character is allowed to survive for so long while contributing so little. Yes in part this is down to writers and producres, but his big storylines haven't elicited much sympathy or empathy and so why would they waste them on him? He strikes me as a bit of a Curly Watts. He'll stay for 20 years, end up being axed and find there's very little else for him to do


and all the Peacocks gone too another character who was brought in as a bit part player as a bicycle delivery boy for butcher 'uncle' fred Elliott. He romanced the fat Barlow nanny, inexplicably got Maxine, lived through her affair with dull doctor neighbour (his first few years correspond with the worst few years of Corrie where they forgot how to be funny and became plot rather than character driven) and then lived through her murder, found out his uncle was his dad, found out his cjhild wasn't his... hes basically had a lot of off the peg soap storylines and in that snes eits no wonder people don't reall care so much.

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(NE) 55. Prem Mandal - 2.636

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The Mandals have all gone now? I missed that, all a bit of a none story anyway, but as it was being sold as Dev's BIG comeback to the forefront it all seems a bit FLAT now. Oh well

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(52) 54. Roger Stiles - 3.000

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Well after the excitement of his first year in the show it never stops :| This year, he did up Ken and Deirdres kithcen and they thought he'd charged too much... I KNOW! how this escaped a soap award I have absolutely no idea.
So yes hes gone, I doubt anybody even noticed let alone cared. Now if only Janice could FOLLOW him

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another big fat WHO for a character you wouldnt know until you see the picture, at which point you remember, oh its that bloke whos playing exactly the same character as he played in dinnerladies! In his time hes, lent money to Leanne... and she gave it back... riveting I'm sure you'll agree

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(NE) 53. Nina Mandal - 3.273

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Played by a Bollywood actress? How odd as she struck me very much as someone who had heard of acting but had never actually seen it. Another part of a non event of a storyline that seems to have been abandoned as quickly as it was begun...

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oh I wanted to vote but forgot :(

I HATE DEV. WHY IS HE NOT BOTTOM.

I want to know what juicy information he has about someone at ITV. Why does he have a job? Not only is he a DREADFUL overacter, but he's been in so much trouble off screen as well. Slimy, evil, dreaful waste of air.

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(NE) 52. Tara Mandal - 3.455

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Former star wars actress (handmaiden to Natalie Portman was it? :|) and what more can be said, she went out with Dev, she found out Dev was sleeping with her mum, she ended it... oh the drama :|

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Ashley is such a WET DRIP. He was actually cute when he first joined Corries eighty four years ago

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oh I wanted to vote but forgot :(

I HATE DEV. WHY IS HE NOT BOTTOM.

I want to know what juicy information he has about someone at ITV. Why does he have a job? Not only is he a DREADFUL overacter, but he's been in so much trouble off screen as well. Slimy, evil, dreaful waste of air.

Oh don't get me STARTED. a WASTE of airtime

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(37) 51. Chesney Battersby Brown - 3.769

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HE CAN'T ACT

why do people seem to be unable to see that he CAN'T act? granted we can see this and this poll position, particularly the drop from last year is most welcome... but he is seen as somebody that would be a seller for an exclusive Corrie DVD. for WHY? He is actually quite painful to watch now but hes at an age where he'll carry on in the mould of Ashley or Tyrone and just be dreary and dull and poorly characterised till he gets his pension

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the problem with child actors is that they rarely have to show any range, so people coo over them, they get best newcomer awards and all of a sudden they're apparently a great actor. Then what happens? they grow up... the limitations in their skills become more obvious, they become a bit of an embarrassment, a gawky awkward embarrassment, ladies and gentlemen may I introduce to you Chesney :) I MUCH preferred his sister as Des Barnes sort of Stepdaughter a few years back :D

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Little Simon better win this, he's the best thing EVER :o

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(56) 50. Jerry Morton - 3.846

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Our first climber :o the character seemed to improve immediately after it was reported he was axed, as did the family generally to be fair. Although as Daryl is now being kept on it seems that this will lead to transient appearances by difefrent family members in the future.
While I hardly think he was ever destined to be a classic characterm, he became much more likeable, and after his heart attack, and attempts by Theresa to keep him ill with too many tablets, viewers did begin to show some sympathy for him. Still no great loss...


and we lose Sinbad. This really was an ill conceived family for Corrie. They'ver made mistakes in the past where Families come in with a BIG story which totally detracts from anything that follows (the Harris witness protection armed siege debacle springs immediately to mind - a story they NEVER really recovered from) but families should make an impact. The Battersbys were hated but everyone knew who they were, the McDonalds again were immediately thrust in in a big way, even the Ogdens back in the sixties were a cacophany of noise and peasantry facing the stares of their new neighbours as they arrived on the back of a rag n bone van. But the Mortons have really come across as a very bland and dull family... maybe its just me. A big emotional story could turen it around but I dont know if the actors have the ability to carry it off (Jerry aside who I think HAS proven his mettle in the past). anyhoo another Morton falls, cos hes shit

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yep Chesney isn't a great actor but he is a caricature and Corrie loves that shit. You only need a couple of facial expressions and a recognisable tone to the voice, the silly storylines do the rest

I mean if fucking KEVIN KENNEDY can keep a job on Corrie for about 15 years, possibly the WORST actor the world has ever seen, then you know acting isn't everything :(

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Little Simon better win this, he's the best thing EVER :o

appeared too late to be on the list

However my rice crispies rate coming SOON should reward him :)

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(50) 49. Claire Peacock - 4.000

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A small climb for Clare, I really enjoyed her house swap story with the Websters this year (Though anything that focuses on Sally will be good, generally speaking) but her absence through maternity leave and lack of big stories means people opinions are unlikely to be changed. She needs more comedy, she needs to be removed from the Peacock family, that'd help her!

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this is a BIT of a shock. My view on Clare is that when they steer her away from drama shes a nice little character, something that Corrie can generally do very well, a bit meek never pushes herself forward yet can sometimes offer amusement. But the nature of soaps nowadays is that there has to be trauma, the recent story with the baby abduction was hampered by Maddie McCann and the hasty rewriting was obvious to anyone watching, but as s tory itself her character isnt the right sort of person to give it to. Similarly the post natal depression was, maybe worthy, but dare I say a little bit dull? Shes someone who will probably stay for years and will muddle through, her and Ashley will stioll be married but as years go on, like Sally they'll add more quirls and round her character more nicely. Its a bit of a shame that her great Tram crash story never saw the light of day though :(

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(28) 48. Kirk Sutherland - 4.308

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I suppose the biggest question here is HOW THE HELL DID HE RATE SO HIGHLY LAST YEAR? A dull unappealing character who has manged 8 years. He was unable to add anything to the fallout from Liams murder, his relationship with Julie is a WASTE of a great new character. Its like his only purpose may be to make Chesney look slightly less terrible by sharing screentime with him.
He knows he has no chance of success anywhere else, so he'll stay till hes axed, and annoyingly I don't see that axe falling anytime soon.

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so first we're supposed to believe that hes from the same gene pool as Maria, and second? SEVEN YEARS? He's gotten by with doing very little, his only real story as I recall has been the on off relationship with Fiz, quite a lazy character in that the producers saw him on the Royle family and essentially brought that character over to the street, slowly expanding on him as time went on. At present it seems they're trying to recreate the double act he had with Les (Pretending to be gay - oh the hilarity) with abandoned Chesney - I can't WAIT to see that developed

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(46) 47. Ryan Connor - 4.308

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Its just not working is it? I'm not even suggesting he can't act, as I thought his performance at the Liam funeral, where he made a speech was brilliantly done. But he doesn;lt seem to have the punch required to make a big story work. It doesn't help that the story in question (Well aside from the death of two uncles in the space of a year) was dire, and the baby swap drama was SO bad that the producers and scriptwriters seem to be ignoring the 'other' son even exists now. The thing is though, however implausible a story, however badly its written , with people capable of acting it they can be carried off. This year he had the chance to make an impact and simply hasn't. He'll be around a while I'd reckon, the Connors are central to the street at present, but maybe he won;t be entrusted with anything powerful for a fair while, if ever.

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It'll be interesting to see if people warm to him more as he enters his first major storyline, obviously much of that will relate to how he deals with it. For the last major Connor story he was shoved out of the limelight, the general reason for this being that he can;t deal with the required emotion (see the baldwin thing with the hair who was ousted from the screen through much of the alzheimers/death story of Mike Baldwin) But yes, the baby swap story comes to a head over xmas and New Year which will REALLY be the making or breaking of this character who has had plenty of time to settle in and made minimum impact

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appeared too late to be on the list

However my rice crispies rate coming SOON should reward him :)

Oh there's NO contest there, he's easily the best of the three kids :disco:

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GREAT THREAD SLEIGHBOR

I don't really disagree with any of these placings. I DO think that Bill Webster is pretty good for what he is - a boring working class old bloke character. He seems pretty realistic and interesting enough, though only as a talking extra.

The bookies definitely were DREADFUL, really pointless shitty characters. I also do think that Kirk may not be as safe as has been said. The writers seemed pretty desperate to get Julie away from him once they realised that she was good (although he may be able to cling onto her and get a new lease of life), and its interesting to notice that Kirk's old job at the butchers has gone to the comedy arsonist. Despite Kirk being laid off and promised it back if Ashley was able (i think).

It's pretty obvious that Corrie finds male characters much harder to do. More often than not they are gash. It sort of makes me worry about the Windasses, when 3/4s of them own a penis. They are also being brought in whole which really NEVER WORKS.

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(40) 46. Tyrone Dobbs - 4.385

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Aside from the reappearnace of Margi Clarke as his mum for a mercifully brief visit, Tyrone may as well have nott BEEN there for the past year. He is marrying Molly, he was around, though contributed little, around the death of Vera, and was a subsidiary character to the Tony Gordon story, only in that he works at the garage Tony was trying to buy. A non event of a year then for a non event of a character. A dull generic northern male there to be bossed around by the stronger women. Some people in this show are SO lucky to have a career :D

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One of the few actors whom you know that this is a job for life for them. and fair play, he does what he does well.. I'm not a massive fan of the character but hes an everyman that any soap needs. Its interesting that he was really only brought in to flesh out Margi Clarkes role *shudders* but Jackie Dobbs lasted no more than the 6 month contract initially offered and 9 years on her son is still here. The Tyrone/Maria relationship never rung true but he and Fiz I suspect will always be the on/off relationship as the years go on

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Ohh I quite like Tyrone. Though I think a lot of this is to do with my love for Auntie Pam and Molly (AND HER BACKPACK).

I was expecting more to be made of his secret medical trials, but maybe he will go for more and end up like the elpehant man and nearly dead. Otherwise all that happened for his big risk was a few episodes' worth of acne.

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(47) 45. Lloyd Mullaney - 4.462

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A small climb for Lloyd, though so small as to be unimportant in any capacity. A character who tends to react to other peoples storylines rather than have any of his own. In the past I'd wondered if this was because of a worry he'd go off the rails again and potentially mess up major storylines through absence. But as he is ru,oured to have been offered a 3 year contract recently it would appear to not be the case. His main action has been an involvement in proper stories for Steve McDonald... and the Maosns while they were around, but I can recall nothing that actually happened to him over the course of the last year that could actually be described as significant. Oh hang on just remembered, Theresa Morton pretended her son was his, and he wasn't. COULD have been a good meaty storyline, but it wasn't...

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you know potentially this is a classic Corrie character in waiting, hes a great foil for the fabulous Steve and Eileen and fits with the tradition of the show very much. His character I can't help feeling has been affected by craigs personal life overshadowing it. In a way I'm glad hes been given the opportunity to try to turn it around and in time people may grow to like him, but he needs a storyline, for the oldies a bit of occasional banter is fine... expected even, but what exactly has he done dince he arrived? gone out with Kelly and gone out with a morton? thats IT

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As long as a lazy producer doesn't come in and pair him up with Eileen, Lloyd can stay.

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I am warming to Tyrone, but it's ALL down to Auntie Pam.

They do however need to get RID of Lloyd.

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(45) 44. Dev Alahan - 4.462

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WHY IS HE STILL THERE? and more pertinently why is he so high? His grating voice, his inability to express the right emotion at the right time (if any!) make his continued employment more implausible with each passing contract. This year we were promised that Dev would be back at the forefront with a MAJOR storyline involving a love triangle with a mother and daughter.
We got a story that started in August where all of the other characters involved have already left and the story barely regsitered on viewers radars. Lest we forget the Mad Maya story was good in SPITE rather than BECAUSE OF Dev though, with another character this particular story may have been better developed and the writers thought 'whats the point?' but if that IS the case it makes it even madder that hes still here year after year.

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FINALLY... the man who sounds like David Essex after a stroke has offered little to the show since arrival. His first relationship was almost wrecked by a stalker I want to call Amy - actually I recall that led to quite a good scene where he ripped bandages off her arm in the rovers to prove she'd not slit her wrists but no, hes just a waste of space really, ever since the mMad Maya story (which Maya made amazing it must be said) and not to mention his brushes with rehab (yes indeed Corrie are tolerant of druggies) he rewally is nothing more than a comedy foil now, what has he done in the last 2 yaers apart from argue with newly found daughter, chat shit with Roy or have banetr with Steve (oh he was prominent during Baldwins demise but to be fair he had to be) I'm not complaining as hes not a good enough actor to carry a story, but it leads you to ask, WHY IS HE STILL THERE?

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OMG I LOVE your Christmas name DFS. :D :D

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(21) 43. Michelle Connor - 4.615

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After a start that confounded many viewers expectations, it seems that Michelle has fast lost favour with viewers. Its hardly a surprise shes dropped this far after the last year, but also I'm not convinced as to how much of it is Kym Ryders fault.
She has been saddled with some horrendous storylines (The baby swap 'drama' must stand out as one of the most ill conceived and poorly executed stories in Coronation Streets history) such as baby swap and runni8ng back off to be in a band etc...
But more than that the character appears to have been turned incredibly unsympathetic. The baby swap storyline was the BIGGIE through Xmas and New Year last year, now the other son has disappeared with no mention. Within an episode of Liam dying she was back to her normal jokey self and showed no apparent upset apart from occasional scenes at the funeral, now granted shes had experience of losing men in her life but would this not make it harder for her? no she was trying to set Becky up on dates within a WEEK.
The other big misfire has been in pairing her with Steve, this was never going to work and I'm so glad that this is being dealt with as we speak in current episodes.
Essentially a good, strong character has been meddled with here though, and viewer popularity appears to be dwindling fast as a result.

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oh how my heart SANK when I read that Kym Marsh would be entering the street, and worst of all playing a singer It struck me as one of the most shameless pieces of casting I;d seen since they brought Boyzone into the Rovers... but it was only for 4 episodes I told myself, won't really have an impact. And in came Kym, she was a bit wooden, then she went. The producers obviously saw something in her though and to their credit I can only applaud their decision to bring her back. Kym has really been nothing short of a revelation as Michelle Connor, more than holding her own in the acting stakes. Its clear that big things are being planned for the character as she has been thrust quickly into the spotlight (compare the number of storylines shes had in the last 18 months to Kelly Crabtrees in the past 3 years) and is now centrestage in the Rovers, not to mention having a family built around her... So far we've had relationship with Steve, Vernon trying it on, the soaps first bisexual love triangle (ruined by Sean being out acted by one of the bar stools in the Rovers but what to do...), the revelation that her ex husband had died due to her brothers actions not his own, the death of her brother (as he was kidnapping Leanne) and now she is being thrust into the drama of DNA tests as it is revealed that son Ryan may have been accidentally switched in the hospital after he was born... I have a feeling Michelle will be around for a while, Kym has seen from her husbands career trajectory the danger of leaving a popular soap thinking the offers will flood in.

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I'm sorry but Dev is GOLD. I love his scenes, he's mental.

One of the Corrie directors who spoke to us in the summer said that before they shoot scenes Dev always comes up to the director with a list of properly ridiculous ideas of stuff that Dev could do in the scene, which the director always has to find new ways of politely saying no to. He is apparently lovely though.

His story was well crap though. Fuck knows how anyone was expected to care when 3 of the 4 characters involved were brand new and most people don't 'get' Dev.

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(NE) 42. Joe McIntyre - 4.727

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Only a regular since August 2008 but has probably been involved in more storylines than Lloyd and Kelly put together. I quite liked that the reveal of his and Gails relationship to the kids didn;t lead to any histrionics, it had an air of realism about it. I am however annoyed that his arrival has led to the arrival of the Windasses (Not REALLY his fault I know) and I fear they're going to be a bit poo.
Would be nice to see Gail with someone who makes her happy for a sustained period of time though abd they don't decide to make him a murderer/rapist/paedophile/tory or something

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I think we should all post suggestions as to the producers about how Michelle can die in a car related way (to fit the Connor death theme - 3 and counting!).

The director who mentioned Dev also slagged off the baby swap and said it was the most unpopular storyline amongst cast and crew he had ever known. God I hated it SO SO MUCH. I hope that the Connor parents stay forever and Michelle goes to live in their house in Ireland.