that Shanghai one is VERY IMPRESSIVE
We're SO FAR BEHIND in comparisson.
But the I guess New York and Chicago and parts of east Asia have little heritage to PRESERVE
Even some European cities are several stages AHEAD of us.
I mean Spain was a TINPOT DICTATORSHIP until the 70s and already appears to be MILES AHEAD.
Far behind yes, but surely only CHINA now beats us in sheer PACE
I mean before now we had to wait TWENTY YEARS for three semi-decent scrapers in the arse end of London
Now we're getting DOZENS, many of them interesting, a handful ENORMOUS, and all in the next TEN YEARS...
They keep updating/enhacing google maps all the time, I can't keep up. I must remember to do that.
Maybe someone should start a google maps thread...
Some of the recent development in Berlin (around Potsdamer Platz as I recall) was AMAZING. It was the biggest construction site in Europe a few years back.
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Madrid is next to catch up I reckon. A BUZZING city coupled with the fastest growing economy in Europe is causing massive work, particularly in the financial district
Paris is a STRANGE one though. Their commercial district is completely separated from the centre of the city, so Paris still looks like Paris. It's pretty, but Paris itself doesn't have the buzz of a metropolis at all.
Of course, Seb Flyte believes that to be a huge plus.
I guess it's a matter of opinion.
that first pic makes the TV tower look like a blob on top of that glass building
I take it that glass building is in the foreground and not encompassing the TV tower?
Paris is REALLY ODD
I only spotted the financial district from the Arc de Triomphe. Totally out the way... But then Paris is so unspoilt as a city that it kinda works
Rome is similar in that its commercial district is separate, as well.
I can't remember much about Madrid's commercial district at all. I was just blown away by the beauty of the old art nouveau buildings they are still cleaning up. I guess attention will turn to modern development with real pace after they have completed that.
And Berlin looks just SPLENDID
I had read and seen (particuarly around the time of the train bombings) that Madrid seemed to be proper moving forward fast...
I liked La Defense
I suppose I'll have to go to Paris again some day
I have never loved anywhere as much as I loved Paris.
I don't actually LIKE Paris THAT much. I'm almost embarrassed to say it.
I just find it all very grand and a bit samey in the main touristy bits. Obviously I know there are pockets elsewhere, but I've never really felt the need to explore it further. I'd rather head to Marseille if I wanted to go to a big French city. I love the idea of it being so run down for years but all the regeneration and dynamism now.
Madrid was always trailing thanks to Franco
but they are finally a modern city again and with that comes MONEY
they're catching up FAST
I loved the unspoilt GRANDEUR of Paris. I could happily live there.
And I actually loved New York FAR MORE and I suspect my eventual trip to Barcelona will out shine both... But I had a mini love-in with Paris...
oh I CAN'T WAIT to go to Barcelona... I think I'm going to FALL IN LOVE with it
It's like crossing London with Ibiza... but without the San Antonio crowd or the brown water
Oh Madrid I loved more than I ever thought I would. But Barcelona has the natural setting (I adore coastal cities), and is just a lot more confident than Madrid, I think. Probably because it has achieved so much already; with Madrid it's more the buzz of possibility that is exciting, and of throwing off its history, I guess.
Barcelona flaunts itself shamelessly; from all the modern art in the street, the Olympic Village, back through Gaudi and then through to the Gothic period. I suppose again that's due to the suppression of Catalonia and the confidence to express itself now. And get one up on Madrid, no doubt. I think the Catalans see themselves as culturally superior to the Castillians.
Bilbao is fucking AMAZING as well, and very different to Barcelona and Madrid. That's all three Spanish cities I've visited I've loved, and I didn't set foot on mainland Spain until I was nearly thirty. I had such a stupid false impression of it from the portrayal of cheap package holidays.
yeah that's the ONLY thing about Madrid - no COAST
Having grown up near the Coast I'm always drawn to the sea. Note I've never been to any cities in the midlands, nor do I ever wish to...
my friends live in madrid - he's born and bred there and his girlfriend is from durham but she's a writer for hello magazine which i didn't know was based there. they stayed with us for new year so now we've got to go over there - i'm looking forward to it as i've heard all only good things.
Britain's Prince Charles on Thursday savaged plans to erect more odd-shaped towers in London, saying they would "vandalise" the skyline and trash the city's character.
The heir to the throne, a fierce critic of post-World War II architecture, lambasted plans to site towers overshadowing historic places like the Tower of London and the City of Westminster.
After the gherkin-like 30 St Mary Axe tower was completed in 2004, an array of weird-shaped steel and glass towers are now in the pipeline, with nicknames like "Shard of Glass", "Walkie Talkie", "Helter Skelter" and "Cheesegrater".
"For some unaccountable reason we seem to be determined to vandalise these few remaining sites which retain the kind of human scale and timeless character that so attract people to them and which increase in value as time goes by," Charles told a building and planning conference at St James's Palace.
"Thus, in chasing the corporate tenant or the buy-to-let investor, we may not only be destroying our heritage, but killing the goose that lays the golden egg for we will destroy what makes our cities and towns so attractive to tourists in the process."
The prince, 59, said the approach of Berlin, where restrictions are imposed on the height of new buildings, "can help to achieve a far more coherent sense of harmony and civic self-confidence than the alternative 'free-for-all' that will leave London and our other cities with a pockmarked skyline".
A rash of skyscrapers "will disfigure precious views and disinherit future generations of Londoners," he added.
Due to post-war architectural carelessness, sink estates across Britain were "unloved and relentlessly, depressingly ugly," Charles added.
As an alternative, residential buildings should consist of four- to five-storey terraces and six- to 10-storey mansion blocks.
Buildings should be built to last 100 years rather than 20, and have flexible use. The proportions, layout, material and building practices used should fit the location.
Charles has tried to put his own building ideas into practice at Poundbury in south-west England, built on land he owns and conceived by him as an inspiration to town planning and design.
He concluded by telling delegates: "For the past 60 years or so we have been conducting an experiment in social and environmental engineering that has gone disastrously wrong."
Ugh. Always sticking his oar in.
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Why, when this very land on which the battle between Church and State was, for so many years, fought is continually being eroded by the sea. And cliffs are moving back by a rate of 4 meters per year
I am aware of the topographical crisis.
That's how fast you run, that is. I saw you on Sports Day
I love old Charlie, but he's such a daft old hippy...
I wish they'd sort out the fucking tube lines before building sky scrapers, not that I'm against sky scrapers AT ALL
But having friends that live in Deptford/New Cross/Hackney and Peckham and there being no tube, or a really crap service is REALLY ANNOYING
You can't ignore my techno
It's all in the planning I BELIEVE
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