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    Synecdoche, New York

    (aka Charlie Kaufman's directorial debut)

    We saw this earlier and it was the best type of headfuck. Not as good as Being John Malkovich or Eternal Sunshine, but it felt like it had a bit more substance. It had quite a few quirks but still managed to feel quite real, and both Michelle Williams and Samantha Morton are really quite brilliant (although I did start to hate Sam's character). Some funny bits, some of which are quite sick and you would probably feel a bit terrible for laughing at.

    I would give it somewhere between an 8 or a 9, but will opt for an 8 because I doubt I would ever watch it again. It really tired us out.

    If anyone saw Lynch's Inland Empire this is quite a bit like what that could have been, if it had actually had a plot, nice moments and wasn't utter shite.

    Here is a trailer:



    ...but it is perhaps the worst trailer I have ever seen. That is not the film I have just watched, and makes it look quite grim (when it isn't really, despite all the dying).
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    Oscar buzz tastic! Was this at the London film festival, or a press screening?

    Looking forward to that one. I saw that some of the Oscar films are coming out soon such as Changeling.

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    If anyone saw Lynch's Inland Empire this is quite a bit like what that could have been, if it had actually had a plot, nice moments and wasn't utter shite.
    So not like it at ALL then I fucking hated Inland Empire.

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    INLAND EMPIRE people!

    I want to see this and hopefully that's what will happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loomer View Post
    Oscar buzz tastic! Was this at the London film festival, or a press screening?
    It was at a press screening at the LFF. We somehow get press passes on my course. I'll be quite surprised if any Oscar Buzz it may have continues now. it didn't feel at all baity and not that special. I doubt there'll even be any acting nods, but Charlie will perhaps get something for the screenplay.

    The other film I've seen so far is (Palme d'Or winner) The Class. It was good but totally forgettable, and I doubt it'll be seen by anyone else on here so I shan't even make a thread.

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    Any FILM GEEK worth their salt will be going to see this.

    I saw it yesterday. I found it tedious in parts, but equally thought there were genuine FLASHES of BRILLIANCE (and this is BIG coming from a Negative Nancy like me). I love Charlie Kaufman - as self obsessed as he is, given that all his films appear to about him in a very direct sense (see Adaptation), I think he is a bit verging on genius and hasn't yet made his masterpiece.

    I think he was arguably trying to with this, it's a weighty existentialist post modern trip, but ultimately I don't think he has succeeded. Why? Well it's a bit boring and self indulgent in parts, but simultaneously it's still refreshingly different to any other films I have ever seen. He is an auteur/true artist IMHO; his film scripts are so distinctive (Being John Malkovich, Adaptation) and personal/from the heart. They also truly push the cinematic form, when others have become so lazy and confined by convention and that is what I admire most about him.

    I think it's definitely work a look and would urge everyone to see it. Even if you end up hating it, it's interesting and thought provoking enough to warrant the trip.
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    How to pronounce 'Synecdoche, New York':

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardia...eymour-hoffman

    I want to see this, fUNKY?
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    Downloaded this yesterday as there doesn't seem to be a German DVD on the horizon. I thought it was absolutely breathtaking, I even cried at the end.

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    Hated this.

    I think I got it. Existentialist take on tedium and confusion of modern life, and the way we interact with ourselves? Still hated it.

    Like Science of Sleep, this was so self-indulgent, and the point being made was not at all suited to the cinematic form. I just didn't enjoy. Would have worked much better as an actual art installation of some sort.

    I like his films when they have actual characters and performances and emotion that I can recognise and invest in. Rather than setups that are solely there to make an abstract point. You can make overarching existentialist points whilst still having an immersive, emotional, ENJOYABLE film.

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    I found there was a lot of character and emotion going on. Phillip Seymour Hoffmann gave one fine performance as a man broken by age and wisdom gained through it. Then there was his daughter who so wanted to see him as a gay to make peace with her parents separating. That was heartbreaking.
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    I disagree Krust, but I respect your opinion and find it interesting. I really didn't gel with the lead performance, and the daughter subplot was ridiculous to me and I hated that death scene.

    The film really riled me, but I assume like all of these sorts of things, it's love or hate. And I've just fallen in to the latter category this time.

    I did like that very distinct, realistic characters and voices emerged, mostly from the stellar supporting cast. But yeah, they didn't take me anywhere or connect in any way.

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    Oh and I did like the scenes with the therapist, she was funny.

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    Now what I found odd was that so many people were working for him and that for years and years. Had to suspence my disbelief on that one.

    I loved the female that played him at the end.

    Oh and the end, I already posted that in my film countdown


    What was once before you - an exciting, mysterious future - is now behind you. Lived; understood; disappointing. You realize you are not special. You have struggled into existence, and are now slipping silently out of it. This is everyones experience. Every single one. The specifics hardly matter. Everyone is everyone. So you are Adele, Hazel, Claire, Olive. You are Ellen. All her meager sadnesses are yours; all her loneliness; the gray, straw-like hair; her red raw hands. Its yours. It is time for you to understand this.

    Walk.
    As the people who adore you stop adoring you; as they die; as they move on; as you shed them; as you shed your beauty; your youth; as the world forgets you; as you recognize your transience; as you begin to lose your characteristics one by one; as you learn there is no-one watching you, and there never was, you think only about driving - not coming from any place; not arriving any place. Just driving, counting off time. Now you are here, it's 7:43. Now you are here, it's 7:44. Now you are...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krust View Post
    Now what I found odd was that so many people were working for him and that for years and years. Had to suspence my disbelief on that one.

    I loved the female that played him at the end.

    Oh and the end, I already posted that in my film countdown


    What was once before you - an exciting, mysterious future - is now behind you. Lived; understood; disappointing. You realize you are not special. You have struggled into existence, and are now slipping silently out of it. This is everyones experience. Every single one. The specifics hardly matter. Everyone is everyone. So you are Adele, Hazel, Claire, Olive. You are Ellen. All her meager sadnesses are yours; all her loneliness; the gray, straw-like hair; her red raw hands. Its yours. It is time for you to understand this.

    Walk.
    As the people who adore you stop adoring you; as they die; as they move on; as you shed them; as you shed your beauty; your youth; as the world forgets you; as you recognize your transience; as you begin to lose your characteristics one by one; as you learn there is no-one watching you, and there never was, you think only about driving - not coming from any place; not arriving any place. Just driving, counting off time. Now you are here, it's 7:43. Now you are here, it's 7:44. Now you are...
    i am enjoying this serious music post

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    I loved it but then I'm a sucker for Kaufman anyway.

    Adore Jon Brion's soundtrack too. Actually, that reminds me of a thread I need to create.

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    It's quite probable this caught me in an off mood.

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    shocked

    Hang on, do Emily Watson and Samantha Morton SHARE ANY SCENES?

    OMG I MUST SEE THIS if that's the case. If not, I'm less interested

    I have heard very mixed reports. But SAM is meant to be great as usual - can't wait to see The Messenger for her and Ben Foster. And Woody I suppose.

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    Saw this a few months ago. It was both amazing and ridiculous at the same time. Stupidly ambitious. Actors playing the actors playing the actors playing him - where does it end?

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