2016 US Presidential election

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Who would you vote for?

  1. I would vote for HILLARY CLINTON (Democrats)

    80.4%
  2. I would vote for DONALD TRUMP (Republicans)

    5.4%
  3. I would vote for JILL STEIN (Greens)

    8.9%
  4. I would vote for GARY JOHNSON (Libertarian)

    3.6%
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    8.9%
  6. I think HILLARY CLINTON will win

    60.7%
  7. I think DONALD TRUMP will win

    19.6%
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  1. Penelope

    Penelope SMIRKING LESBIAN MOON

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    Well now it's basically confirmed that Clinton is the nominee for the Democrats, time for the super-fun ACTUAL THREAD for the horrors of the next five months
     
  2. VoR

    VoR #Justice4JLo

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    God, five more months of this shit?
     
  3. VoR

    VoR #Justice4JLo

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    I know I post a lot of Samantha Bee videos, but this is another good one.

     
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  4. Lockhart

    Lockhart Valar Morghulis

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    Samantha Bee has been killing it with the election stuff (and pretty much everything else for that matter).
     
  5. KindaCool

    KindaCool Kick Rocks. Eat dirt.

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    Poor America. That's gonna be one GRIM looking ballot. Donald Trump is a joke gone too far and I'd rather vote for Spongebob Squarepants than Hillary Clinton.
     
  6. Penelope

    Penelope SMIRKING LESBIAN MOON

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    That says more about you than Hillary.
     
  7. jivafox

    jivafox chalamet & chill

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    I hope she bombs you first.
     
  8. KindaCool

    KindaCool Kick Rocks. Eat dirt.

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    Actually it also says something about the millions of Americans who don't wanna vote for either of them. She's obviously the lesser of two evils, but anything would be next to Trump.
     
  9. Madison

    Madison Everything goes up by six

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    There's no use pretending the options are anything other than what they are. Who would you vote for?
     
  10. Eileen

    Eileen All the better to see you with, my dear.

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    I would vote for Trump because it means a former wife of a US president was a Big Brother contestant.

    I don't want to say who I think would win because I might be wrong like when Bonnie Greer appeared on the BBC saying he wouldn't get the nomination and then they brought her back on when he did.
     
  11. KindaCool

    KindaCool Kick Rocks. Eat dirt.

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    I know I know, it's negative and shitty. But from those two neither. But if I had to, I'd vote for Hillary because she'd do less damage. And she will win. I know it's been said millions of times, but I despise the heavy role the media plays in the election. You barely hear about Sanders' rallies and his successes.
     
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  12. Dark Carnival

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    I don't know about the rest of the world but we heard quite a lot about Bernie's successes here.
     
  13. VoR

    VoR #Justice4JLo

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    Yeah poor Bernie's big problem is that nobody's talking about him :(
     
  14. Kalabaliken

    Kalabaliken Pop Precision Since 1978

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    Bernie can still TECHNICALLY win, can't he?
     
  15. KindaCool

    KindaCool Kick Rocks. Eat dirt.

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    Compared to Trump and Clinton though? He's had a FRACTION of the coverage. He was doomed from the start.
     
  16. KindaCool

    KindaCool Kick Rocks. Eat dirt.

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    Within the next few hours, yes.
     
  17. Gangsta Nancy Lam

    Gangsta Nancy Lam Not Lana Del Rey

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    Obviously I would vote for Hillary of the two, but other than the 'YAAAAS BREAK THE GLASS CEILING KWEEN' factor, she's not exactly an appealing prospect.
     
  18. jivafox

    jivafox chalamet & chill

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    But villainesses are SO much more interesting :disco:
     
  19. VoR

    VoR #Justice4JLo

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    She screams unpopular one-term president. It's probably fairly inevitable that the Republicans will get back in in four years, but hopefully with somebody less overtly racist/insane.
     
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  20. jivafox

    jivafox chalamet & chill

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    How DOES a reigning president secure a run for a second term? Do they get it automatically and run against the opposite party nominee? Or do they compete against new potential nominees in their own party?
     
  21. Peekaboo

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    I wouldn't vote for him but I'd rather Trump was President than Hillary, any time. Hillbillies of America, I have faith in you :disco:
     
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  22. Madison

    Madison Everything goes up by six

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    They go through the same primary process as any other candidate. It's very rare for anyone else in the party to seriously challenge them in practice.
     
  23. Dark Carnival

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    :manson:
     
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  24. Penelope

    Penelope SMIRKING LESBIAN MOON

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    Call yourself a left-winger!
     
  25. Penelope

    Penelope SMIRKING LESBIAN MOON

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    Provided superdelegates (who dislike and distrust him about as much as Labour MPs do with Corbyn) decide to switch to him despite him having 4 million fewer votes, sure.
     
  26. Penelope

    Penelope SMIRKING LESBIAN MOON

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    You really think the party which found itself choosing between Trump and Cruz is going to sort itself out in the next four years?
     
  27. VoR

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    There's still Paul Ryan lurking in the wings.
     
  28. Peekaboo

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    Please. Hillary is about as left wing as DAVID CAMERON. She's an awful neocon under a liberal disguise, which is much more dangerous than a straight up populist right-winger.

    Four years of Donald Trump mental and utterly non-starter policies like LET'S KICK ALL MUSLIMS OUT OF THE US (like that's ever going to happen) will swing the barometer back to the REAL left in four years time. America is getting there, Bernie has laid the groundwork.
     
  29. Penelope

    Penelope SMIRKING LESBIAN MOON

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    That whole 'cut pensioner healthcare and pensions to the bone to fund tax cuts for the rich' plan didn't go down too well when he was Romney's VP.
     
  30. Penelope

    Penelope SMIRKING LESBIAN MOON

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    Strange, I don't recall the Conservatives ever promising universal pre-school or guaranteed paid leave.

    The whole accelerationism idea never works, as should've been obvious when Thatcher and Reagan weren't followed up by radical left wing governments. You're not going to get a presidential candidate elected on a platform of 45% tax increases for average earners in your lifetime - if anything, it's one of the few policies that will get white people voting for a racist with ease.
     
  31. Madison

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    Wouldn't having another four years of (a form of) universal healthcare, and a stacked Supreme Court be much better groundwork?
     
  32. Dark Carnival

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    By that logic, France should vote Marine Le Pen in 2017 to get the country back to the left.

    Yeah, okay.
     
  33. Peekaboo

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    The world is INSANELY DIFFERENT to what it was in 1991. Bernie is part of a bigger political insurgence that is the sign of our times, not the Eighties. It's true that, ironically, the people that will be worse off with Trump as president will be Americans themselves, but in as much as their foreign affairs affect me and other non-Yanks around me, I'll take Trump over Clinton any day.
     
  34. Peekaboo

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    Yeah that's exactly what I said!!!!! :manson:
     
  35. Penelope

    Penelope SMIRKING LESBIAN MOON

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    Are people suddenly much happier to pay loads more tax now than they were in 1991? It's certainly not backed up by what they say. Near on two thirds of Americansthink they pay too much tax - ironically, pretty much the same level as did in 1991. A candidate doing well in a party's primary (or even winning it) isn't a sign that the broader public is any more keen on it now than they were then.
     
  36. Penelope

    Penelope SMIRKING LESBIAN MOON

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    It's pretty much the identical principle to what you said.
     
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    I feel like 2016 likes to overstate how radical it is.
     
  38. Penelope

    Penelope SMIRKING LESBIAN MOON

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    Quite. For all the supposed 'anti-establishment wave', how many of them have actually got elected?
     
  39. RaspberrySwirl

    RaspberrySwirl Leftover

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    Well, almost half of Austria voted for a NAZI (well, almost) president just a couple of weeks ago.
     
  40. SDF

    SDF We're all Angles in Chainz

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    Hillary's main problem right now is a complete lack of momentum. I also wonder if she will be able to win round Bernie's supporters. Her brand has taken such a beating and Bernie's supporters seem so loyal that I don't think it's going to be as easy as it was for Obama to unite the party in 2008.

    Her saving grace is that she is up against Donald Trump - surely a man so off putting to the majority of Americans that they will feel they have no option but to vote for her.
     
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