2020 Democratic Primaries

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  1. SDF

    SDF The Wait is Over

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    I find extraordinary the level of money that’s been spent on the Bloomberg campaign so far. I really hope it backfires and people see it for what it is. But, then, that might be putting a little too much faith in society.
     
  2. ameraal

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    i literally just watched an interview with a buttigieg supporter:

    man: i don't like bernie because his supporters are very rigid and did not vote for clinton in 2016.
    reporter: statistically more bernie supporters voted for clinton in 2016 than clinton supporters voted for obama in 2008. does that change your mind?
    man: no.
     
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  3. ameraal

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    people are really brainwashed by mainstream media. i don't know how you get around that... i still have recurring nightmares of that labour focus group spewing daily fail propaganda like they will mind-controlled.

    that is the danger that bloomberg poses.

    i am pretty conscious of my own bias so i try to read and watch and give the benefit of a doubt to opposing views but i'm not sure many other people do.
     
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  4. Mugatu

    Mugatu a policy wonk with sex appeal

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    If I was American, I wouldn’t vote for anyone apart from Bernie at this point, but asking voters to choose between a Republican billionaire from New York and another Republican billionaire from New York will not end well.

    Trump diagnosed the problem correctly, that American capitalism no longer works for the working class and modern liberalism primarily serves the wealthy elite. Bloomberg is a fully paid-up believer in the current system (who was donating to Republicans as late as 2018).

    If the Democrats nominate him, they’ve learned nothing from the last four years and frankly they deserve to lose. Support Biden, Buttigieg, or whoever, but it’s embarrassing to watch people rehabilitate a Republican free-marketeer as the alternative. Even Hillary called trickle down economics a lie. Being mildly (very mildly) to Trump’s left on social issues alone isn’t enough.

    Where does it end? If George Bush was allowed to run for the Democratic nomination in 2020, would the electability crowd support him in the presidential election, or would they send a message and say these choices aren’t good enough?
     
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  5. RaspberrySwirl

    RaspberrySwirl Leftover

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    From a geopolitical (and a very biased) perspective; fuck the Americans, let them have whatever President they want to have but as long as the transatlantic relations are restored.
     
  6. ameraal

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    that's the thing though - they are one of the main super powers (if not the main) and who becomes president is super important for the entire world. and sanders is the only one whose foreign policy is any different from what we've seen from republicans and democrats (thinly veiled imperialism).
     
  7. Peekaboo

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    I will take away EVERYTHING I've ever said about America if they elect Bernie Sanders as president*.

    *for about 5 minutes until he's promptly assassinated/gagged/forced to bomb Lebanon.
     
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  8. Mats

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    I can't believe her. what poor morale she has turned out to have
     
  9. Kate

    Kate most die in your bedroom

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    I'll probably try and move there tbh
     
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  10. KindaCool

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    We could establish a Moopy chapter here.
     
  11. Kate

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    Vegas for me obviously.
     
  12. RaspberrySwirl

    RaspberrySwirl Leftover

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    Oh yes Vegas, that Mecca of anti-capitalism
     
  13. ameraal

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    i wouldn't rather die than live in vegas but i think i'd definitely start blowing things up if i were forced to.
     
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  14. Kate

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    What sort of SOCIALIST HAVEN do you suggest then?
     
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  15. Peekaboo

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    Oakland! Before it got infected with bro devs spilling out of San Francisco.
     
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  16. Tetris-Rock

    Tetris-Rock TRAY UP, BITCH

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  17. RaspberrySwirl

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    I wouldn’t call 21:st century Sweden a socialist haven, but it surely has the right combination of socialism and market economy (even though the heavy deregulations in certain areas has went way too far and now being attacked from both the left and the right).
     
  18. Phoenix

    Phoenix L to the OG

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  19. ameraal

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    surely none of that is real but :D
     
  20. ameraal

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    drudge is reporting bloomberg is seriously considering hillary as his running mate.
     
  21. ameraal

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    so i just read an obama strategist joined the bloomberg campaign and sanders started attacking bloomberg publicly and am now making the prediction that at the bitter end it will be the two of them in a proper deathmatch. which will either set up an existential trump/sanders battle or a new low for western culture trump vs bloomberg made for tv shitshow.
     
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  22. ameraal

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    (which will end in trump winning a second term obviously)
     
  23. KindaCool

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    If Bernie doesn't get the nomination, he better run again in 2024 when he's on life support.
     
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  24. Jark

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    I think it will be Bloomberg unfortunately. Money sings loudest and he's starting to gain some very serious traction in polls of states where he's investing heavily in ad spends. It's all quite alarming.
     
  25. ameraal

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    it's really quite remarkable where we've come to as a species.
     
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