2020 Democratic Primaries

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  1. SDF

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    I find extraordinary the level of money that’s been spent on the Bloomberg campaign so far. I really hope it backfires and people see it for what it is. But, then, that might be putting a little too much faith in society.
     
  2. ameraal

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    i literally just watched an interview with a buttigieg supporter:

    man: i don't like bernie because his supporters are very rigid and did not vote for clinton in 2016.
    reporter: statistically more bernie supporters voted for clinton in 2016 than clinton supporters voted for obama in 2008. does that change your mind?
    man: no.
     
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  3. ameraal

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    people are really brainwashed by mainstream media. i don't know how you get around that... i still have recurring nightmares of that labour focus group spewing daily fail propaganda like they will mind-controlled.

    that is the danger that bloomberg poses.

    i am pretty conscious of my own bias so i try to read and watch and give the benefit of a doubt to opposing views but i'm not sure many other people do.
     
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  4. Mugatu

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    If I was American, I wouldn’t vote for anyone apart from Bernie at this point, but asking voters to choose between a Republican billionaire from New York and another Republican billionaire from New York will not end well.

    Trump diagnosed the problem correctly, that American capitalism no longer works for the working class and modern liberalism primarily serves the wealthy elite. Bloomberg is a fully paid-up believer in the current system (who was donating to Republicans as late as 2018).

    If the Democrats nominate him, they’ve learned nothing from the last four years and frankly they deserve to lose. Support Biden, Buttigieg, or whoever, but it’s embarrassing to watch people rehabilitate a Republican free-marketeer as the alternative. Even Hillary called trickle down economics a lie. Being mildly (very mildly) to Trump’s left on social issues alone isn’t enough.

    Where does it end? If George Bush was allowed to run for the Democratic nomination in 2020, would the electability crowd support him in the presidential election, or would they send a message and say these choices aren’t good enough?
     
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  5. RaspberrySwirl

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    From a geopolitical (and a very biased) perspective; fuck the Americans, let them have whatever President they want to have but as long as the transatlantic relations are restored.
     
  6. ameraal

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    that's the thing though - they are one of the main super powers (if not the main) and who becomes president is super important for the entire world. and sanders is the only one whose foreign policy is any different from what we've seen from republicans and democrats (thinly veiled imperialism).
     
  7. Peekaboo

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    I will take away EVERYTHING I've ever said about America if they elect Bernie Sanders as president*.

    *for about 5 minutes until he's promptly assassinated/gagged/forced to bomb Lebanon.
     
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  8. Mats

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    I can't believe her. what poor morale she has turned out to have
     
  9. Kate

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    I'll probably try and move there tbh
     
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  10. KindaCool

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    We could establish a Moopy chapter here.
     
  11. Kate

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    Vegas for me obviously.
     
  12. RaspberrySwirl

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    Oh yes Vegas, that Mecca of anti-capitalism
     
  13. ameraal

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    i wouldn't rather die than live in vegas but i think i'd definitely start blowing things up if i were forced to.
     
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  14. Kate

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    What sort of SOCIALIST HAVEN do you suggest then?
     
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  15. Peekaboo

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    Oakland! Before it got infected with bro devs spilling out of San Francisco.
     
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  16. Tetris-Rock

    Tetris-Rock wo ist der party?

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    Sweden.
     
  17. RaspberrySwirl

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    I wouldn’t call 21:st century Sweden a socialist haven, but it surely has the right combination of socialism and market economy (even though the heavy deregulations in certain areas has went way too far and now being attacked from both the left and the right).
     
  18. Phoenix

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  19. ameraal

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    surely none of that is real but :D
     
  20. ameraal

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    drudge is reporting bloomberg is seriously considering hillary as his running mate.
     
  21. ameraal

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    so i just read an obama strategist joined the bloomberg campaign and sanders started attacking bloomberg publicly and am now making the prediction that at the bitter end it will be the two of them in a proper deathmatch. which will either set up an existential trump/sanders battle or a new low for western culture trump vs bloomberg made for tv shitshow.
     
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  22. ameraal

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    (which will end in trump winning a second term obviously)
     
  23. KindaCool

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    If Bernie doesn't get the nomination, he better run again in 2024 when he's on life support.
     
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  24. Jark

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    I think it will be Bloomberg unfortunately. Money sings loudest and he's starting to gain some very serious traction in polls of states where he's investing heavily in ad spends. It's all quite alarming.
     
  25. ameraal

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    it's really quite remarkable where we've come to as a species.
     
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  26. COB

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    I'm feeling a bit less worried about Bloomberg today (I'm sure @VoR will be pleased :tongueout:) - the idea of him just blasting the entire country with ads until everyone just gives in and votes for him is still quite frightening, but there's also the chance it'll make people sick of the sight of him. I also have faith that once he's in a less controlled environment like a debate it'll start to fall apart a bit.

    Also this headline made me laugh:

    WE KNOW BEST, POORS.
     
  27. ameraal

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    9th debate in a nutshell from the snippets and articles i've read so far: bloomberg performs very poorly and comes across as unprepared and entitled after battering from all sides, warren delivers strongest performance of the night attacking not only bloomberg (he gets a sucker punch on his history of sexual harassment of women) but also everyone including surprisingly klobuchar. solid performance by sanders, buttigieg and klobuchar fading with their platitudes, biden looking lost.

    it will be interesting to see what effect the debate has on the saturday's nevada caucus.
     
  28. Jark

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    early voting began in Nevada pre-debate so I'm not sure what effect it will have but I'm predicting a poor showing for mini Mike, a small bounce for Elizabeth that won't be enough, and a reasonably resounding win for Bernie.
     
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  29. ameraal

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    on the ndas the women who accused bloomberg signed

     
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  30. ameraal

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    a bit of pain

     
  31. COB

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    Amazing clips - Liz getting the tomahawk out :disco: Where has SHE been for the past six months?
     
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  32. SDF

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    The Warren clip, having rewatched it again feels like a bit of a game changer.
     
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  33. Ag

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    Liz was like a bulldozer. Amazing stuff.
     
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  34. ameraal

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    playing the sexism card against the person whose policies are closest to hers. too little, too late as far as i'm concerned but i honestly hope she uses this momentum wisely.
     
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    She's been told she's too loud, she's too aggressive, she's coming on too strong and getting panned for making 1.9 Million $ between 1995 and 2009 for being a consultant/expert witness in the private sector. Aka they treated her like a female candidate in America, like she's Leslie Knope in Pawnee.
     
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  36. Dark Carnival

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    Because hey!

     
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  37. ameraal

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    :D

    should've been the theme song from pocahontas though :(
     
  38. ameraal

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    what a troll. i guess the bloomberg campaign had to be good at something.
     
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    I think Warren is fucking amazing. But if she can't even appeal to a group like Moopy then she has no hope.
     
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    erm...
     

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