A Topic for Male Celebrities Rape/Sexual Assault Scandals

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  1. VoR

    VoR Forever in our hearts #Justice4Barb

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    My impulse to be a bit dismissive of the Kevin Spacey thing, which obviously turned out to be a fucking horrible pattern of serially abusive behaviour has really made me question myself and how I react to stories like this. I think deep down we're all probably a bit afraid that we're terrible perverts and every embarrassing drunken pass we ever made puts us on the venn diagram with this kind of behaviour.
     
  2. Beverley

    Beverley I Don't Wanna Change A THI-ING

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  3. Jark

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    Yes but it's important to distinguish that making a drunken pass at somebody is NOT harassment if you keep your hands off other people's genitals and you take no for no. It's not sexual misconduct. You're aware if you're acting in indecent fashion, drunk or not. And the majority of us are not in a position of power over the other person when we find ourselves making a pass at a stranger, unlike Spacey or Weinstein. Labelling things harassment when they're not is actually really harmful because it normalises it to the extent that ACTUAL harassment and severe sexual misconduct will go unpunished.
     
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  4. big ron

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    You can be a pervert and still not rape people.
     
  5. Beverley

    Beverley I Don't Wanna Change A THI-ING

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    Or the other is possible, that we will start ostracising and punishing anyone for what we incorrectly perceive to be harassment and assault. The majority of us might not hold power in a way that we can immediately recognise in Hollywood terms, but we do hold power in different guises and the conversation about power is, in my opinion, much more complex than our society is ready to give it credit for.
     
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  6. Kate

    Kate most die in your bedroom

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    Power can be as simple as appearing physically stronger than someone else, so that they are afraid to say no in case you hurt them.
     
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  7. VoR

    VoR Forever in our hearts #Justice4Barb

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    Of course. Which is why stuff like this throws up a lot of uncomfortable questions. Louis CK hasn't (yet) been accused of raping or even assaulting anyone, as far as I can tell. It seems he has a thing for masturbating in front of women. Is that a criminal act or just a distasteful one? Where do we draw the line between thinking "Well, that's gross and inappropriate?" to taking formal action against them, which is what seems to be happening here. (His shows have all been pulled/cancelled etc.)

    I don't think anyone's brought criminal charges against Spacey yet either, although that may well come. And his behaviour so far definitely seems like it was more egregiously abusive than CK's. But again, I don't think the word 'rape' has come into it.
     
  8. Kate

    Kate most die in your bedroom

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    Indecent exposure with intent to shock is illegal in most places.
     
  9. ameraal

    ameraal true love is making a comeback

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    i'm quite baffled by the fact that people like weinstein and spacey and ck actually need to do shit like that to get laid. how are wannabe actors everywhere not throwing themselves at them left and right in the hope of furthering their careers?
     
  10. Phoenix

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    I would assume part of the thrill is the lack of consent. Like an exhibitionist.
     
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    JLO on ‘Money Train’ Love Scene w/ Wesley Snipes - “I Felt Violated”

    In an interview with the SAG-AFTRA Foundation, Jennifer Lopez was asked if she’d ever had a bad experience doing a love scene in a film.

    She replied by talking about the “total jerk” actor with whom she starred in an action film.

    Ugh! It was horrible. It was my first one… my first big role in a big budget movie. And I had to do this love scene. And I had never done a love scene before. I mean, I had done kissing, caressing, you know, but I had never done a sex scene before, so I was really nervous.

    I didn’t want to do it. I didn’t think it was necessary. I wish now I had put up more of a fight. But when you first start working professionally, if you wanna work and you want your chance, you take whatever they give you. I didn’t think I had the right to say “No”, like, “No, I’m not doing this, and that’s it!”

    I just tried to put it like, “We don’t really need this. It’s not that kind of film. This is an action movie. It’s not in the script.”

    That’s the thing: It wasn’t even in the original script! The producers added it during filming. It wasn’t called for. It served no purpose in the story. You know what I mean? They just wanted a sex scene. Or rather the star did. Who was just a total jerk.

    He was a big star at that time, with a lot of clout, and I was just starting out. It was my big break. And he really pressured me. He told me if the scene wasn’t hot enough, my part would end up on the cutting room floor. And that it would be bad for my career, like I’d get a reputation as difficult to work with.

    So we did it, and it was horrible. We were both completely naked, with nothing between us except a sock on his boner! I was so naïve then. Now I would have pillows and covers and whatever to prevent contact, but I didn’t know any better.

    So here’s this famous actor, basically humping my leg and pawing away at my breasts and kissing them. It was awful. I felt violated. I swore I’d never work with him again. He’s not done too well lately anyway… so maybe that’s karma!"
     
  12. Suedey

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    GEORGE CLOONEY we are waiting!!!


    We all know he's gay and we all know he's done even worse things than Spacey so give it 2 us!!
     
  13. Suedey

    Suedey CRAVE

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    QUEEN J LO

    DRAG HIM
     
  14. Marilyn

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    There is now a blind item doing the rounds that implies that Heather O'Rourke (it's barely a blind item, it really couldn't be anyone else), star of the Poltergeist films, died at 12 due to an incident while she was being molested/raped on the set of a TV show

    Here it is but beware that it is seriously, seriously gross and disturbing


    According to comments on the site (http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/11/todays-blind-items-molesters-killed-her.html), the show would have been this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Road_(TV_series), and the award-nominated actress would be Devon Odessa: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devon_Odessa. Heather first started appearing in acting roles at age five, which matches the age this story says she was first assaulted

    The story seems insanely detailed and plausible, although of course it could also be totally fictional, as most blind items are. It's so horrific that I hope it IS made up :(
     
  15. Ag

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    It does sound made up, but then fuck knows.
     
  16. Phoenix

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    Nick Carter is now accused of rape.
     
  17. VoR

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    I always thought he was one of your classic closet cases...
     
  18. jivafox

    jivafox Stay sexy don’t get murdered

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    Well he did beat up Paris Hilton

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  19. Commotion

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    In the alternate universe of Irish light entertainment radio, TV and panto star Al Porter has resigned from all his gigs after being accused of groping a load of men.
    He's being investigated by the police after a complaint was made that he assaulted a man in treatment at a psychiatric hospital.
    He is 24 (Porter that is).
    Here he is - in happier times - with ageless beauty Linda Martin, 70.
    [​IMG]
     
  20. Jark

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    He's twenty four?

    Fuck me, someone's had a HARD LIFE!
     
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  21. Commotion

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    He's been in panto since childhood.
    He resigned from all projects and released a statement which said

    That was before the allegations of assaulting a psychiatric patient were announced.

    If charged then he's finished.

    If not then I expect in about 6 months he'll do a tell=all interview where he'll detail his own experience as a victim.

    He's repellent.
     
  22. Ellie

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    John Leslie now being charged with assaulting (putting his hand up her dress) 26 year old in a nightclub last June.
     
  23. Shirley

    Shirley Worra load of old SHIT

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    I'm surprised THAT took so LONG!
     
  24. Steptacular

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    Obviously not learned from the whole Ulrika thing way back!
     
  25. Sheena

    Sheena MAKE IT QUICK, LUCILLE!

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    You and me both!

    As an aside, I always found the whole Ulrika business rather DISTASTEFUL to be honest. He’s clearly a REPELLENT old cunt...
     
  26. Jark

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    Bryan Singer has been AWOL from the set of his Freddie Mercury biopic for the last 3 days. Issues a statement about "health issues". Fox apparently considering a replacement director with two weeks left to shoot.

    IT'S ABOUT TO BLOW
     
  27. Sheena

    Sheena MAKE IT QUICK, LUCILLE!

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    whoops
     
  28. Christian

    Christian GOOD BYE!

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    It's a health issue for both he and a member of his family though. Maybe he means one of his TWINKS.
     
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    Bryan Singer asks the media to respect his privacy while his boyfriend recovers from his battle with nappy rash.
     
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    SINGER FIRED

    Bryan Singer issued the following statement regarding his removal from Bohemian Rhapsody, which he describes as a passion project. The director said he had asked Twentieth Century Fox for time off to deal with health issues — his mother is ill — but the film studio was unwilling to do that. He acknowledged creative differences with the film’s star, Rami Malek, but said they had managed to work things out.

    “With fewer than three weeks to shoot remaining, I asked Fox for some time off so I could return to the U.S. to deal with pressing health matters concerning one of my parents. This was a very taxing experience, which ultimately took a serious toll on my own health. Unfortunately, the studio was unwilling to accommodate me and terminated my services. This was not my decision and it was beyond my control,” Singer said in the statement. “Rumors that my unexpected departure from the film was sparked by a dispute I had with Rami Malek are not true. While, at times, we did have creative differences on set, Rami and I successfully put those differences behind us and continued to work on the film together until just prior to Thanksgiving. I wanted nothing more than to be able to finish this project and help honor the legacy of Freddie Mercury and Queen, but Fox would not permit me to do so because I needed to temporarily put my health, and the health of my loved ones, first.”
     
  31. Phoenix

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    They must have been looking for reasons to fire him in order for them to do it over a sick mother.
     
  32. Jark

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    Or there was no sick mother...

    Apparently he was warned before shooting began about timekeeping etc so it sounds like he has form.
     
  33. Phoenix

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    Yeah but would you fire someone like him over some chaos in production? I'm guessing they didn't want to take the chance with their movie when allegations against could surface any minute and tank their film.
     
  34. Commotion

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    His publicist also dumped Singer as a client a couple of days ago.

    Something seems to be brewing.
     
  35. Ellie

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    SINGER SUED (for rape obviosuly)

     
  38. Ellie

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    Oh fucking hell, talk to police not lawyers.
     
  39. Commotion

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    2003?

    Statute of limitations in Washington state is 10 years.
     
  40. Ellie

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    Fine, but I don't believe in repressed memories, particularly for a 17 year old. Statute absolutely needs to be raised. Money and civil lawsuits create so much doubt. Or do a Taylor Swift and sue for $1 plus court costs.
     

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