Brexit EU Referendum announced - June 23rd

Discussion in 'Current Affairs & Debate' started by Sharla, Feb 20, 2016.

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Well?

  1. I will vote for the UK to REMAIN

    71.0%
  2. I will vote for the UK to LEAVE

    4.3%
  3. I will make up my mind nearer the time

    4.3%
  4. I will abstain on principle or spoil my ballot

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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    7.2%
  6. I can't vote but would vote REMAIN if I could

    13.0%
  7. I can't vote but would vote LEAVE if I could

    1.4%
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    5.8%
  9. I predict the UK will vote to REMAIN

    44.9%
  10. I predict the UK will vote to LEAVE

    18.8%
  11. .

    7.2%
  12. I hate George Galloway more than Nigel Farage

    7.2%
  13. I hate Nigel Farage more than George Galloway

    29.0%
  14. I hate George Galloway and Nigel Farage in equal measure

    26.1%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Penelope

    Penelope Соловей!

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    If the cost of living goes up that in turn makes it just as hard (or harder) to get that smaller deposit, and all the while a lot of foreign investors supplying the housing being built currently go 'oh shit' and pull out for about two years until the economy stabilises.
     
  2. Loufoque

    Loufoque CONTINENTAL QUEEN

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    I think it's difficult to talk in absolutes with this one. There will be winners and losers depending on your current level of savings. If you have zero today, you are fucked either way. If you have a respectable deposit saved but it's growing more slowly than house prices are currently, a dip in the market could benefit you.
     
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  3. Penelope

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    It could benefit you - but by definition, an increase in the cost of living is probably going to cut how much is going into that deposit, or how much is in it at all.
     
  4. Loufoque

    Loufoque CONTINENTAL QUEEN

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    And THAT is the problem with the messaging in this campaign:

    MORE JOBS ("sorry, does this mean more highly-paid jobs with good prospects, or more zero-hours slave contracts?")
    HOUSE PRICES WILL GO DOWN ("right, I've been struggling to get on the property ladder for years - surely this is a good thing, no?")
    RECLAIM THE BORDERS ("but what if the EU will only trade with us if we adopt Schengen, that would be a bit of an own-goal, right?")
     
  5. Tetris-Rock

    Tetris-Rock TRAY UP, BITCH

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    If house prices fall, will it not be because the economy takes a turn for the worse? It depends if people are willing to let the entire economy take a dive for the sake of them personally getting on the property ladder.
     
  6. Penelope

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    That's the issue with any messaging in any campaign - reduce any campaign message to three or four words and of course there are going to be questions rising after it. You got their point and didn't seem to find 'stronger economy, more jobs, the deficit down, a long term economic plan' all that vacuous when it was all the Tories said for two years. Why not then, why now?
     
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  7. Loufoque

    Loufoque CONTINENTAL QUEEN

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    If your #1 concern in life is getting a house for you and your family, I think it's difficult to decouple selfish motivation from the "greater good". My biggest concern in this referendum is personal: continued freedom of movement for myself and a strong pound. The kumbyah side of "we're all one big European family" is nice, and speaks to my own emotional attachment to Europe, but if Leave could offer me anything more financially advantageous than "we have no idea what will happen", I would consider it.
     
  8. Tetris-Rock

    Tetris-Rock TRAY UP, BITCH

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    I think my point is more than the proposed benefit of leaving is decoupled from the very fact that it will be due to an economic downturn which of course affects society but disguises the potential effects on someone's own financial stability. Is there even any guarantee that they'll still have a job that allows them to pay the mortgage?
     
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  9. Loufoque

    Loufoque CONTINENTAL QUEEN

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    The Tory messaging wasn't exactly mind-blowing either. But the Labour story was so piss-weak that it turned the Tories into the competent technocratic choice by default.
     
  10. Loufoque

    Loufoque CONTINENTAL QUEEN

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    Don't the left wing always talk about how wages have stagnated since the recession? If that's true, I imagine it will be more of the same for many people. In which case, any drop in house prices might be welcome. But who knows? It's all theory and conjecture at this point.
     
  11. Tetris-Rock

    Tetris-Rock TRAY UP, BITCH

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    It's not just the LEFTIES rabbiting on about things... due to the nature of the problem, there is clear evidence in the form of research and figures on this. From the likes of LSE and beyond.

    In other news, Boris has said he will issue a public apology if a Brexit vote triggered a recession. BECAUSE THAT WOULD HELP. :manson:
     
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  12. Eileen

    Eileen All the better to see you with, my dear.

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    If Brexit does trigger a recession, the powers that be will be sure to blame it on some new bogeyman.
     
  13. Gangsta Nancy Lam

    Gangsta Nancy Lam mess

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    I'm sure a small semi-apologetic paragraph buried on page 17 of the Sun would reverse the issue entirely actually.
     
  14. Shirley

    Shirley BIG-HEARTED BUNNY

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    We'll all just LAUGH and say SILLY OLD BORIS! WHAT A LEGERND!

    I've watched the BUILD UP to the BUILD UP to tonight's DEBATE and I'm reading myself for the BUILD UP. I'll bet my SWEET PUSSY everyone is going to say exactly the same things they said in the last 300 debates. This referendum is playing havoc with my attempts to cut down on LARGE DRINKS :bruised:
     
  15. Sharla

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    The Wembley finale is looking spectacular, so big in fact that everyone's got little headset microphones on.

    Sadiq Khan officially shorter than Frances O'Grady but taller than Ruth Davidson.
     
  16. Shirley

    Shirley BIG-HEARTED BUNNY

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    GET ON BOARD RUSTIE'S BREXIT BUS

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    HURHURHURHURHUR
     
  17. Sharla

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    Maxine's hair looks like it's been stifled and not by EU regulations
     
  18. Sharla

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    The state of that woman in the fur coat applauding Boris!
     
  19. Beverley

    Beverley I Don't Wanna Change A THI-ING

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    Is BOJO gonna get RAPUTUROUS applause everytime he SPEAKS? :daf:
     
  20. Shirley

    Shirley BIG-HEARTED BUNNY

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    "TAKE BACK CONTROL"
    "TURKEY"
    "FAILED PROJECT"

    Full house ALREADY! OPEN THE TRAP DOOR
     
  21. Shirley

    Shirley BIG-HEARTED BUNNY

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    Andrea's offering CHILD-FREE TAX CARE

    YES PLEASE :D
     
  22. Beverley

    Beverley I Don't Wanna Change A THI-ING

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    :disco:

    This is really depressing to watch. :(
     
  23. Zu-Klara

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    :D I can't even be bothered to watch this. I drained all my energy earlier when ripping the Socialist Worker in half on the 48 after seeing VOTE LEAVE plastered all over it
     
  24. Madison

    Madison Everything goes up by six

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    I threw my shoe at the TV when Boris started to speak and have switched to The Great British Sewing Bee on iPlayer. It's much better - join me.
     
  25. Sharla

    Sharla The Resistance

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    Everything about Priti Patel screams "Sacked in week 5 on The Apprentice"
     
  26. Zu-Klara

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    Oh what a good idea :disco:
     
  27. Sharla

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    COME ON TIM
     
  28. Beverley

    Beverley I Don't Wanna Change A THI-ING

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    Sadiq IN me. NOW.
     
  29. Sharla

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    Fur coat lady's back.
     
  30. Sharla

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    LOL

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I confirm that I will leave the Government if UK remain in EU.</p>&mdash; Michael Gove MP (@MGoveMP) <a href="https://twitter.com/MGoveMP/status/745251460938600452">June 21, 2016</a></blockquote>
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  31. Shirley

    Shirley BIG-HEARTED BUNNY

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    OMG more reasons to vote remain
     
  32. PJL

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    I expect millions of teachers to vote Remain on the back of that tweet. Possibly a lot of parents too.
     
  33. Shirley

    Shirley BIG-HEARTED BUNNY

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    I don't REALLY THINK HE'D HAVE MUCH CHOICE TBH
     
  34. Madison

    Madison Everything goes up by six

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    It's not real. (Sorry)
     
  35. Shirley

    Shirley BIG-HEARTED BUNNY

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    If anyone else says TAKE BACK CONTROL I am going to

    OH SHE JUST DID :manson:
     
  36. Sharla

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    TAKE BACK CONTROL (Pete Hammond Mix) out soon
     
  37. Shirley

    Shirley BIG-HEARTED BUNNY

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    That's it I'm watching BIG BROTHER
     
  38. Haiku

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    Same stuff as other debates. :eyes:

    I loved that moment when Nicola Sturgeon pointed out how there were grandparents on their side as well after LEAVE lady kept using the "As a Mother and Grandmother" argument. :D
     
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  39. Penelope

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    MOBILISE THE PROMO

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  40. Penelope

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    It's a fake account.
     

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