Discussion in 'Current Affairs & Debate' started by VoR, Dec 6, 2011.
what a HOT MESS of a thread
okay honest question: who here likes me?
Are you older or younger than me? I need to know before I answer
The word illiberal is annoying.
The actual gap in numbers isn't the weird thing, it's the fact that he isn't even old enough to vote, and is therefore a child, or a YOUNG ADULT as one might say. What could they possibly have to talk about?
And cwej you can't call people illiberal for having a different opinion to you because that then makes you illiberal. Anything which makes people uncomfortable, which it clearly does, should be allowed to be talked about and discussed without lambasting or criticism - that's what a liberal society is for me.
That doesn't really make sense to me. cwej didn't call anyone illiberal for disagreeing with his personal view, he called them illiberal for having what he considered to be an illiberal view point, which is fine and perfectly valid.
So have you just made yourself 'illiberal' by telling cwej what he can and cannot do? Do you not see how ridiculous that whole notion is?
Questioning lawful behaviour between two consenting ADULTS is not particularly liberal. That questioning is not wrong; it's fine, it's valid. No one is saying otherwise. It's just not that liberal IMO. And if people could have got over seeing being called 'illiberal' as such an insult, they could have addressed some of the more interesting points that cwej raised rather than resorting to the sort of petty arguing normally reserved for me in a real music debate.
This thread really jumped the shark about three pages ago, right?
Annoying and inaccurate!
I think you need to read back over what cwej actually said. It was he who made the (massive) value judgement on what is liberal and what isn't. I consider myself a broadly liberal person, but you're right, on the issue of age gaps between thirty+ women and teenagers my view is more conservative. I have no issue with this. But come on, all of what cwej says below is judgemental and massively offensive.
I'm not gonna respond to this cos if you re-read it it's such a 'I need to defend my boyfriend' answer...
It's more the way in a small font you can't tell where the "i"s and "l"s are for me.
Hey wouldn't it be funny if Robotboy turned out to be 17 years old
RB cwej said a lot of pretty bigoted, rude and gobsmackingly awful things about mine and VoR's perspectives, including:
FRIGHTENED? I mean, please. Come on. Anyway I'm done with this...!
okay what i mean is: What you've said can so easily be said the other way, that you've just fallen on one side, and it's the side obviously of cwej, and so it's impossible to talk about any further. He is so obviously a bull in a china shop in this thread that what you said just reminded me of my mother apologising to the neighbours on behalf of me all those times...
If this thread carries on to page 7 i'm gonna write some more Robotboy and Cwej in bed fan fiction
You were JUST AS RUDE! Do you not see that!? Seriously, you're as bad as each other. You're still doing it. "Gobsmackingly awful" is JUST as ridiculous as cwej being "frightened' of your opinion.
I'm not apologising for him, I've openly said I think him, Mo and Bev were as bad as each other in here. The level of sarcasm aimed at him in the same breath as 'don't make it personal' genuinely made me laugh. I just happen to side with his opinion on the original subject.
No I really wasn't as bad, RB.
cwej's posts are RIDICULOUS in this thread. I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion and I don't believe mine to be the definitive one on this, which he evidently does. His posts all made me want to poke my eyes out with a SHARP OBJECT
AND YES I AM DONE!
cwej and his (ALLEGEDLY LIBERAL) BIGOTED OPINIONS CAN SUCK IT
I'm off to enjoy Sunday.
HOLD ON - WHAT'S GOING ON IN HERE?
It's great having a proper heated debate I think. I might disagree vehemently with some of the points of view, but it's generally a great read, despite some posters' rather questionable debating abilities.
What's your contribution then?
Just wanting to increase that POST COUNT.
I just object to my name being bandied about as some sort of THEORETICAL OLDER PERVERT
I think ROBBIE would be a BETTER FIT
Are we not on page 7 yet?
She could have at least got on Zayn.
I can't even READ this WHOLE SPASTIC TOPIC. Whilst I don't wholly subscribe to Cwej's Socially Liberal Manifesto. I do think 'the day after' theory applies here. It wouldn't be ok when he's 17, but if the next day was his 18th birthday would it then be ok?
The problem is that SHE SHOULD KNOW BETTER. It's a taste thing.
It's not like she's fucking the boy from the John Lewis advert (I would).
I fuck teenagers all the time and I'm 31. If I ever met someone decent and single who was my age I'd be COCK-A-HOOP but it's a rarity. And let's face it, if you have hot teen ass virtually throwing themselves at you it's hard to say no.
I posted my views on the matter on page 1.
I can't be bothered to read five pages of this, but I hope at least one of you has pointed out that it's a massive fucking PR stunt and nobody is shagging anyone
Is that a FACT?
I haven't had it confirmed but I would quite cheerfully bet my irreplaceable muse shit on it
N.B. not a literal shit from a member of muse
Caroline Flack looks permanently pregnant.
It's her next SHAG. It's all very SADE. Years of working with Sam and Mark fucked her over royally.
This photo gets her WET