Cumgate: The Ineffable Survival of Dominic Cummings

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  1. octophone

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    Maitlis is terf-adjacent rather than terf. She can be brought 'round in a way that Linehan and Rowling can't.
     
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  2. Christian

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    This could have been over in a day if:

    1. Cummings admitted wrongdoing on Friday night
    2. Cummings apologises & offers to resign on Saturday morning
    3. Johnson comes out with criticism of Cummings but doesn't accept resignation for "reasons"
    4. Then you move to the "case is closed, time to move on"
     
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  3. octophone

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    3a - Nicola Sturgeon goes "eh, hang on, I'd to ditch my chief medical officer and you're backing a SPAD who did a lot worse?"
     
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  4. Christian

    Christian GOOD BYE!

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    That's when you employ the "extreme circumstances" excuse which seemed to be quite effective in shutting down any comparison with Caldergate.
     
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    Not up here it wasn't. But it would have washed with Boris's support so it's six of one, half a dozen of the other.
     
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  6. Lucille

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    Boris is taking today’s briefing.
     
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    Oh no. He's my least favourite Wurzel :(
     
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  8. Shirley

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    Obviously NOBODY ELSE is willing to then :D
     
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  9. cwej

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    **cwej book of stats**

    Saw a thread from my (mostly Conservative) home town earlier today. Five days ago everyone was baying for Cummings blood. Now I'm one of two or three people anti-Cummings - the rest are calling the media bullies and propaganda agents and that they need to 'let it go'.

    **cwej book of stats**
     
  10. cwej

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    Also: when did Kay Burley become a (temporary) QOL?
     
  11. octophone

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    I wouldn't worry. Unlike Piers Morgan, who appears to have been visited by three ghosts one night around the beginning of April, Burley is a stopped clock telling the right time twice a day.
     
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    People round here are still furious about Cummings, and this is a Tory stronghold.
     
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    The only way Cummings can be stopped is with a sniper. Such a master twister.
     
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  14. ButterTart

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    The same cunts who call the media scum are the same people who forced Diane Abbott into a public apology because she drank a fucking mojito.
     
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    Yep the media are scum when it suits them and only when it suits them. We're all guilty of it to some extent though.
     
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  16. Soldi

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    Another TORY area and it’s a bit mixed but mainly “ooh he was wrong but I don’t give a shit”

    But I bet if it was CORBYN :eyes:
     
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  17. Madison

    Madison Everything goes up by six

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    (Diane Abbott was in the wrong and should have apologised. Which she did, relatively quickly, without being forced.)
     
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    Don't forget the bacon sandwich too!
     
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  19. Suedey

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    The fact that Boris is effectively gagging people from even answering questions on Cummings now. The mind boggles.
     
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    It's another colossal misstep by him. The BBC news report tonight was pretty damning, they showed that incident in its entirety and then followed it up with a rational, straightforward comment by Starmer. The longer this goes on, the more damage the Tories are doing to themselves.
     
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    I’m not complaining at all, if it means it put Boris at more risk of not being re-elected in 2024 then I’m ALL UP FOR IT to keep going TITS UP.
     
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    Sadly I think in a few months this will all be forgotten, never mind by 2024.

    As Trump once said, he could kill someone and still they’d vote for him. The same is true for Boris. The Tories have been dreadful since they got into power in 2010 but they are teflon coated. They’ve duped millions to vote for them time after time in an act of continuous self-harm.
     
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  23. Soldi

    Soldi CLAP CLAP

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    :bruised: Oh well let’s hope he awkwardly eats a bacon sandwich the week before the election or SOMETHING.
     
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    Call me a pessimist but I have no faith whatsoever in the British electorate.
     
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    Still front page on most of the newspapers. The highlight for me is THE STAR - of all rags - sticking the boot in. Cummings did say that if the story was still front page by Sunday, he'd quit. Two days to go...

    Oh, and the spectator ran a piece stating that Johnson isn't fit to lead.
     
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    First thing I did this morning was looked at the front pages, it isn't going away even with the footy/bbq bands. The number of MPs against him seems to be growing too.
     
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  27. ButterTart

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    It helps that he basically silenced expert opinion on national TV yesterday - another massive fuck-up to keep the story fresh.
     
  28. ButterTart

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    Turns out Cummings co-owns the property on his Dad's estate, which I would have thought makes it one of those second homes we were expressly forbidden to go to.

     
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  29. Madison

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    The regulations don’t refer to second homes though, do they? Ownership seems irrelevant.
     
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    Second homes were a guidance thing, rather than legal thing I think. Which is still why Calderwood went.
     
  31. Win_the_game

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    The UK guidance introduced at the end of March said:

     
  32. Madison

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    The argument's a dead end. He's never claimed that having access to another property automatically gives you a reasonable excuse.
     
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    He said he went to stay with his parents, which was lying by omission.

    Nothing will come of it, but the reality is that Calderwood resigned for the exact same thing Cummings has done, and our shithouse PM keeps telling us what he did was reasonable and within the rules.
     
  34. cwej

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    Exactly - and then everyone gets a compromise final result. Johnson would lose a bit in the polls, but not as much as he has... the game has been played very badly.
     
  35. cwej

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    I mean they literally DID kill people by not enforcing lockdown earlier...
     
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    We've already seen that ANY argument is a dead end. He has been proven to have broken the rules and they still claim his innocence through double speak. There's no point digging up other avenues to show he's wrong, because people have already made their minds up now whichever side they are on.
     
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  38. lolly

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    QOL encompasses all genders, doesn't it?
     
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    Yaaas. Now watch him get sacked while Cummings gaily carries on :rolleyes:
     
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    I am relatively confident that if they fired him it would be a total shit show and the Conservative backbenchers would openly rebel. So I kind of hope they do try and fire him.
     
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