Is Dragula worth bothering with?

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  1. lolly

    lolly Rowena? From Kuwait?

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    Just noticed it's on Prime. And it's on tour, playing here in September. I think I'll give it a go.
     
  2. Christian

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    I've watched both seasons but it's very VERY low rent. I found it really hard to tell the queens apart at times and some of it just grim gross out stuff which I didn't enjoy. The doom rock they prance about to on stage is very trying too.

    Plus the editing is a disaster, every episode is too long, you can't hear what anyone's saying half the time.

    The Boulet Bros are fabulous though and it's worth tuning in just to see what they're wearing each week.
     
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    I've yet to delve into it fully, but my friend who's a fan is adamant that people should start with season 2 as the production values are much higher. Apparently season 1 looks like it was filmed on someone's mobile phone :D
     
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    I think "much" higher is pushing it, but it definitely is a notch up from the first :D

    I think they reedited the first season and redid the sound before they shoved it on Prime as you literally couldn't hear what was being said half the time.
     
  5. lolly

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    They must have done. I've just watched it, and the quality is fine. Admittedly on a tablet rather than a big screen, but quality seemed comparable to SD.

    I liked it enough to stick with it.
     
  6. Diddy

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    Ooh I keep threatening to watch this,
    It’s even officially on YouTube (or at least S2). But every time I think about it, there’s been some series of Drag Race running or starting
     
  7. lolly

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    It did all feel a bit sub Sharon Needles, and I guess considering the theme, that's not likely to change.
     
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    Both are on Youtube I think, though Season 1 is probably not the "improved" version.

    It is all a bit sub-Sharon to be honest. Drink a shot every time someone comes on stage and vomits/dribbles/spits a weird coloured liquid out of their mouths and you'll be three sheets to the wind before you can say ALASKA IS A GUEST JUDGE.

    The Boulets show how to do subversive/weird drag well (though presumably with a hell of a budget behind them) but the queens pretty much look like they're recreating the dumpster challenge every week. Despite the opening titles, most of the don't bring the GLAMOUR.
     
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    I think the first season is great! Vander is one of the best queens i’ve ever seen on ANY season of Drag Race or Dragula and there’s plenty of drama/interesting challenges if you can stick the lo-fi production values (Meatball is a gem & Loris is basically Laganja mark II)

    The second season is fun, but the personalities aside from James Majesty weren’t there for me. It all became a bit too Instagram although some of the looks (mainly from Victoria) were amazing. Monikkie Shame was a choice for casting however considering her views and situation IRL (she’s an open racist with severe addiction issues) and the first elimination challenge is genuinely unsettling and too much for reality TV (albeit not actually aired on TV itself) in my opinion.
     
  10. lolly

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    Finished Dragula season one last night. The fact it took a month for 6 episodes says it all, but I did enjoy it quietly. Vander clearly the right winner.

    I look forward to the big budget of season two!
     
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    Season three incoming

     
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    Oh I am so here for this. Production budget INCREASED.

    That's SUCH a strong cast too - Landon Cider is pretty much the world's number 1 drag king, Evah Destruction is arguably more famous than some Drag Race queens and Hollow Eve & Yovska are both amazing! Pegging the Exclamation Point for first out :disco:
     
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    I think I've watched about 50% of each season, it's quite enjoyable for what it is. Here for season 3.
     
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    I don’t know why I’m not so here for this, does the horror stuff get a bit boring after a while, or is there more variation in the themes?

    Having said that, I LOVE the name Louisianna Purchase :D
     
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    I watched the reveals and was THRILLED that they involved lots of the queens gobbing out a viscous substance in SLO MO :zombie:

    STEP IT UP, Boulets

    Evah Destruction has been touted for Drag Race for years (along with Bible Girl and now Vander), so that's quite a catch. My big hope is that they make the whole thing a whole lot SNAPPIER.
     
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    Season 3 starts August 27
     
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    Does that mean they're aiming for a Halloween finale? 8-9 weeks sounds about the right length and would be a better spend of the (meagre) budget rather than stretching it out.

    I'm curious to see if this is going to be any better, production values wise, so will definitely be watching the first one.
     
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    Just watched the first episode. Relatively (compared to the first two seasons) impressed. I'm not sure the budget is that much greater, but it's definitely more polished.

    Think the standard of competitor is pretty high as well, and Hollow Eve is clearly going to be an agitator. I just wonder if she's going to be too abrasive to have much impact.
     
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    Hmmm the opener was GOOD but not quite as exciting as I was expecting considering the talent in the cast. I much preferred the badly recorded season 1 witch-themed opener.

    The queens almost seemed a bit nervous in the much more polished environment like they felt like they didn’t belong :D

    That said, Madelyn Hatter was a FABULOUS bitch of the Raven variety who I hope stays till the end just to stir the pot (she also reminds me of Jennifer Coolidge, visually). Landon, Youksva, Dollya and Evah were all SERVING looks with others not far behind.

    Hollow Eve’s comments about the word “fishy” seem to have caused quite a debate online, which I think is actually a good thing as the gay community can be a very misogynistic place - and it’s something that isn’t often looked at or talked about. Yes they were a bit over-worthy, overly woke and generally a bit irritating in how they delivered it - but the debate has to start somewhere. If it means they have to be on their soapbox every single week to push it through, i will allow it albeit through vaguely gritted teeth.
     
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    This series seems weird - there's very little showing of the ACTUAL floorshow/looks which are 95% of what I'm tuning in for!
    The workroom drama seems stilted and petty. It's like they are being forced to sit around and make mildly shady remarks to each other. At least James/Monikkie in season 2 was REAL and all the better for it.

    That said, I LOVE Landon. I'm getting total Vander/winner vibes for him and his look this week was one of the best I've ever seen on this show or Drag Race. All the details...it was just perfection. Hollow Eve's look this week was also pretty special. Youksva's was a DISASTER.
     
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    Agree totally about the floor show and how they edit it. You just hardly see anyone performing, other than a few seconds spliced in with everyone else. When you're having a challenge as performance based as burlesque, why on earth not show it? I felt as if I had nothing to judge the entire episode on other than the look.
     
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    ANYBODY bothering?

    Amazon Prime seem to TRULY be messing up when the episodes come out, i feel pretty bad for the Boulets.

    Anyway in regards to this season, Landon Cider is just AMAZING! Never mind Dragula, he could win Drag Race. Surely the winner (with Evah runner up). None of the others come close.

    Hollow Eve is a Langanja-style reality TV irritant :D I’m actually really here for them now I’m used to them.
     
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    What exactly happened with the episodes? Episode 4 wasn't there when I looked at about 10pm last night, but I looked again about an hour later, both 4 and 5 were there.

    I have to say the boudoir drama feels even more manufactured than Drag Race the last few episodes, though. It really needs turning down a notch. And my reservations about how the floor show is edited remain.
     
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    Still watching, @wurst?

    At this stage I think Landon is the most deserving winner by some distance. She's (or do I say he's?) the only one delivering concept and execution consistently. I'd go for Dollya as a second choice, and then Louisianna and Priscilla some distance off.

    I did highly rate Evah as well, but she really struggled the last few weeks, and clearly doesn't operate in quite the same sphere as most of the others.
     
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    I’ve kind of given up with the seemingly random dropping of the episodes/Drag Race UK taking attention :D I will catch up when i get chance,

    Landon is clearly the winner, and it would be ridiculous to crown any of the others at this point. I’d love to see Landon and Vander compete on Drag Race, both are insanely talented - and Landon has confirmed it really DOESN’T MATTER about your gender. His talent speaks for itself.

    I haven’t seen the episode but Evah’s elimination feels a little early - often at this point I think they are thinking about who will give the best final floorshow so I’m expecting Landon, Priscilla and Dollya as final 3.
     
  26. lolly

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    Oh dear. Sorry wurst, I should have spoilered that.
     
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    Oh don’t worry IN THE SLIGHTEST :D
     
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    So it's no longer available on Youtube? I don't think I can bother if it's not.
     
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    OK so now I’ve finally caught up it makes TOTAL sense why Evah went home. WTF was she thinking with that lilac/tap dance monstrosity :D She’s literally KNOWN for being THE scary clown - why would you not do that in a circus challenge :D

    I did like the editing when Evah was having a “showing vulnerability” moment and they interrupted with Dollya going “would you like some cheese with your whine” :D

    Anyway, has a contestant ever just totally demolished a season like Landon has. He basically won at the end of the last episode where he was the clear winner in that fab wolf-daddy-poppers outfit :disco: with the other 3 up for extermination :D

    Landon could have won pretty much every episode aside from the first - it felt at times they were calling one of the others the winner to not make it TOTALLY obvious. His Mexican look is one of my faves ever :disco:

    Aside from being a talking head I can’t remember a single thing Priscilla has done all season. Her Frankenstein look was 90% amazing, but still slightly off - total blank for the rest of season. I’d have preferred to keep Louisiana instead - I LOVED her satan look.
    Dollya’s strong woman and rat looks were both GREAT, but I’d much prefer Hollow Eve to have been kept around as the season’s irritant :disco:

    I wonder if they will bother making a season 4. The pool of contestants for the show can’t be THAT big to pull from, and they’ve gobbled up a lot of the big players in the past couple of seasons.
     
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    I agree that Landon is talented but he would absolutely tank on Drag Race. He doesn’t have any comedy chops whatsoever.

    Dollya ftw
     
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    Dollya winning when Victoria couldn’t manage it in season 2 (with better looks) would be a CHOICE!
     
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    Landon has never faced an extermination, has he? I bet they were hoping they would be able to put her up for one in the last few weeks, but couldn't justify it.

    I'd agree that he hasn't demonstrated any comedy chops, or even displayed that much personality, really.

    Couldn't give a shit.
     
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    The reunion thing was boring as fuck.

    Dollya is still my favourite but I suppose a Landon win will be fine.

    All Stars rumoured for S4
     
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    I've still not watched last week yet, after reading Louisianna left over Priscilla, which annoyed me.

    As long as Priscilla doesn't win, I'm good really. I think Landon is going to either have to royally fuck up to lose it though. Or Dollya pull something off the scale. At least I believe Dollya is capable of it.
     
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    What a sedate reunion :D i did enjoy seeing Hollow Eve and Maddelyn again though.
    I’m not against Dollya winning, but I think it would be a strange message to send with Landon competing so strongly and consistently.

    I would MUCH rather an All Stars than a new season at this point.

    Meatball
    Loris
    Melissa BeFierce
    James Majesty
    Victoria Black
    Disasterina
    Hollow Eve
    Maddelyn Hatter
    Evah Destruction
    Dollya Black

    :disco:

    and that’s missing out Priscilla, Louisiana, Youvska, Monikkie, Erika Kalash, Abhora (who I HATED!), Frankie Doom and Xochi Mochi.
     
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    Without spoiling the winner for those who haven't seen, I just want to say that Priscilla's Glamour look in the finale was absolutely stunning

    And Landon really IS NOT all that
     
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    Anyone know where I can watch Season 2?
     
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    Based on the finale alone, I'd have given it to Dollya. Still think Landon is the absolute right winner over all though, and that's nothing to do with the politics of it.

    Priscilla's glamour look was fantastic. Shame the other two were both so much weaker.
     

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