Discussion in 'Current Affairs & Debate' started by Tetris-Rock, Jun 24, 2016.
Let's hope it turns out he did nothing wrong
I'm ready for Tony's Believe moment
Maybe it exonerates him entirely
EDIT: Grrrrr. People stop posting when I'm typing please.
I only just read Lolly's post above. This extract is pretty damning:
"When the Shadow Cabinet met on Friday, there was no indication from Jeremy that he was disappointed by the referendum result. The rest of us were devastated, knowing the impact it would have on our constituents, and what the result said about us as a country. Jeremy had nothing to say at the Shadow Cabinet on Friday, nor at the PLP meeting last night, as to how we now take the country forward. At the PLP last night, he simply didn’t answer the questions put to him, and clearly had not given any serious thought to the political and economic crisis now facing the country, other than to endorse John McDonnell’s calls to oppose an austerity budget. He had no analysis, no strategy and no vision.
I asked Jeremy specifically at the Shadow Cabinet about immigration, and how we talk to Labour voters about it. This is an issue that comes up time and time again on the doorstep in east Bristol, and clearly was a massive factor in the vote to Leave. I do not think Jeremy understands those concerns, nor does he wish to engage with those voters. He only wants to speak to those who share his political views. And that is not enough for someone who aspires to be Prime Minister of this country."
As the self-appointed Queen of Balanced View Points, THIS is where I take issue with JC. The fact that he - allegedly - refused to share platforms with the PM on the Remain campaign speaks volumes about his reluctance to find common ground with others. This is not what the UK needs right now as it becomes increasingly polarised and partisan.
Not to be rude, but I really think Suomi could benefit from reading this.
He's worse that I thought. WHY is he so well liked by the members of the party?
That said, given that the popular mood pre-Corbyn was that "they're all the bloody same" - perhaps it's good to show everyone what it's like when you DON'T have a party leader who will work with the others.
I'm still seeing those Owen Smith (who?) rumours floating around.
The young Labour activists they have been interviewing on BBC News do my head in. Completely unflinching (unsurprisingly) in their support for Corbyn, they don't have any answer when pressed about whether he is an electable PM or even a good unifying leader for the party and all they keep banging on about is the so-called huge democratic mandate he was voted in on. They are as stubborn as him.
The fundamentalists on the Brexit side and the Hard Left are no different. No answers - just shouting the same mantras, with an utter disdain for constructive dialogue.
It just feels intractable now. The pro-Corbyners are just convinced that the rest of the party are lying villains and it seems nothing is going to convince them otherwise.
The ISIS of left-wing politics. Such a shame, as the Left should be a force for good.
Corbynism is absolutely a cult. Complete blind faith.
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Corbyn seems to have a much bigger ego than I'd previously thought. His staunchest supporters are truly fucking awful people.
There you all were saying THAT CERSEI'S A RIGHT CUNT last summer. But she was RIGHT ABOUT THE FAITH MILITANT!
(yes if you so wish you may also point out she was entirely responsible for it happening in the first place)
The far left don't do compromise and they are ALWAYS RIGHT, even when they are WRONG.
Personally, I am not totally blind to Corbyn's failings and I do not think Labour centrists are 'lying villains', but the vilification, scaremonging and backstabbing he has had to endure just because he represents socialist values is APPALLING. He has been in the job for less than a year and the knives have been out from DAY ONE. The man was elected with the biggest majority ever by Labour party affiliates - refusing to accept this mandate in the way centrists have done, particularly when Corbyn hasn't had any real electoral test whatsoever, smacks of both a wholly undemocratic attitude towards your own affiliates ("YOU may have elected this man but WE know BEST really") and a toxic, entrenched refusal to engage in any attempts at uniting the party (the sort of accusation they hypocritically level at Corbyn).
(it wasn't the biggest majority ever)
Who wrote it?
Is anyone defending Corbyn on Moopy who isn't about to lose their EU citizenship?
Well I'm definitely not attacking him, but I'm not outright defending him either. I do feel sorry for the persecution that he's gotten from day one, but I never wanted him in the first place.
To clarify, do you genuinely believe that everybody who is criticising Corbyn within the Labour party is an outright liar?
I presume Suomi can get Swedish citizenship if he hasn't already?
Rachel Maskell, Clive Lewis and Cat Smith, all bona fide Corbyn supporters (Cat Smith used to work for him and Corbyn was apparently likely to step down so she could run in his seat in 2020 if she didn't win her's last year) apparently saying to him he should go Diane apparently MANNING THE FORT
Di is IN IT TO WIN IT
I feel at this point, Diane and Jeremy should just attempt a Bolshevik-style armed coup on Number 10. The Far Left activists have shown themselves willing to fill the Red Army role. Let's go full retard on a situation which is frankly already 80% brain damaged.
If Jeremy is the High Sparrow, does that make Tenacious D the equivalent of SEPTA UNELLA?
I'm increasingly convinced that it is actually JOHN MCDONNELL who is the RINGLEADER of this whole travesty
Best idea yet
If Corbyn is the High Sparrow and the next Labour leader is Cersei, then presumably that means that the new leader is virtually certain to be devoured by dragons at some point in the next 18 months.
Actually, that sounds about right.
What was that famous Lenin quote about "useful idiots"?
CONFESS *Di waterboards Tony Blair*
I like Jeremy's tactic of choosing today to talk about antisemitism in the Labour Party.
Tomorrow he should talk about Communism and Saturday would be a good time to discuss the IRA.
Did he really compare Israel to the Islamic State, or has this been taken out of context?
It has been taken somewhat out of context: “Our Jewish friends are no more responsible for the actions of Israel or the Netanyahu government than our Muslim friends are for those of various self-styled Islamic states or organisations.”
That said, it is clumsy wording, and if deliberate does highlight his anti-Israeli bias.
Clumsy? It is downright outrageous. He is clearly not on the fence about it.
If this was damage control, it has failed. GTFO Jeremy.
Rumours that he might actually resign after all. I wouldn't be surprised if the MPs who always personally supported him have turned, but it seems bizarre given he'd easily win any leadership vote against the likely contenders. Maybe he's ACTUALLY REALISED how inoperable the party would be after winning it.
Considering doing a hysterical "LEAVE JEREMY ALONE!!!!" YouTube video now