Jeremy Corbyn leadership crisis

Discussion in 'Current Affairs & Debate' started by Tetris-Rock, Jun 24, 2016.

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Time to jettison Jezza?

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  1. Shirley

    Shirley BIG-HEARTED BUNNY

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    Is that DR EOIN CLARKE? I've run into him before :zombie:
     
  2. Suomi

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    Who is 'they'?
     
  3. Kalabaliken

    Kalabaliken Pop Precision Since 1978

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    Keep up! The people paying £25 to vote for Corbyn.
     
  4. Suomi

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    No, no, you are the one who needs to 'keep up'. How is it that the people paying to participate in a democratic election are destroying the party?
     
  5. Sharla

    Sharla The Resistance

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    If he is re-elected in September, there can be another vote of confidence in October, another challenge in November and another leadership election in early 2017, and Jeremy gets his wish.

    Meanwhile the Tories are 11% ahead in another poll, with Labour under 30% again.
     
  6. Suomi

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    Unelectable. The death knell of the party. A bad leader. And yet


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  7. RobotBoy

    RobotBoy BANG BANG

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    Corbyn and his supporters are as blinkered and belligerent as UKIP.
     
  8. Suomi

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    wow, thats offensive...how are Corbyn's political views at ALL like UKIP?
     
  9. Suomi

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    It's especially wrong when you watch Corbyn vs May in PMQs today...once again, he keeps his cool and sticks to the point in the face of right-wing comedians trying to get the biggest laugh.
     
  10. RobotBoy

    RobotBoy BANG BANG

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    May made an excellent point about him being a terrible boss, if we are to believe the stories of those working under him since he became leader.
     
  11. COB

    COB jumped up little prick

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    I'm all for Corbyn continuing if he has the support of the party, but whatever happens I really do struggle to understand what the route forward is for Labour at this point.
     
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  12. RobotBoy

    RobotBoy BANG BANG

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    His political views are nothing like UKIP. That's not what I said.
     
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  14. Sharla

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    Not that she'd want to dwell on it, but Theresa May could have responded to the comment about Boris Johnson's racist comments by pointing out the shadow cabinet's misspeaking. Corbyn's got an IRA supporting shadow chancellor, a shadow health secretary who doesn't think Scandinavian nurses can look after black patients and a leader of the house who doesn't think a jew should be allowed to be an ambassador to Israel.
     
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    The Green Party got 1,157,613 votes at the last election. 183k members does not translate to enough votes to win an election. You Sir are absolutely full of shit.
     
  16. Suomi

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    The elephant being that he is an elected leader, and she is not.

    Anyway, I think it's shocking that you can side with a person who has a terrible voting record on equality and human rights, against somebody who is literally only in the game to make the world more equal, all because of 'stories you've heard'?
     
  17. RobotBoy

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    I'm, broadly speaking, more politically aligned with Corbyn than May. That's not the point. He is an incompetent party leader who can achieve nothing if he cannot get his party elected.
     
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  19. Sharla

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    A Corbyn supporter was on the radio this morning saying that parliamentary democracy as a concept is irrelevant now, which is why she supports him. She didn't elaborate on how government will work and be accountable to the electorate but that's jus put details.
     
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    Quite. It's not like we don't like his politics. It's just he's a rubbish party leader. I feel like if you don't want Corbyn you're suddenly a MASSIVE RACIST BREXIT TORY. Nah, we're just being objective, mostly based on experience. It's not surprising that so many Corbyn fans are young.
     
  21. Suomi

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    What do you think that tweet is saying? Do you really think it's saying: 'see, Labour are going to win the general election now!' ?
     
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    You implied he was electable and used that tweet as proof.

    Please answer this question: DO YOU THINK JEREMY CORBYN WILL BE THE NEXT PRIME MINISTER?
     
  23. RobotBoy

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    Were you not suggesting it helped disprove the idea that he was unelectable?
     
  24. Suomi

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    I think the general feeling is that until the other side have something new and real to offer - a leader who isn't the same old like Owen, or an argument about Corbyn other than 'he's unelectable!' - then it just isn't good for the party to cause all this disruption.
     
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    "He's unelectable" is the best argument I can think of to remove any party leader and no amount of amazing things he thinks will change that.
     
  26. Suomi

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    I don't need to imply his electability, he's won enough elections to show that. The tweet shows that there is real support.

    I think he should be campaigning for proportional representation, and coupled with a left wing coalition of parties working together then yes, they could prove a match for the Tories.
     
  27. Alex

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    That line about unscrupulous bosses was AMAZING :D
     
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    Do we have a deluded smilee?
     
  29. Madison

    Madison Everything goes up by six

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    What elections has he won that demonstrates electability as PM?
     
  30. RobotBoy

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    I think it's ludicrous and disrespectful to ignore the obviously very real concerns of so many of the party's MPs, based on their actual experience of working under him. I think Corbyn himself has been the one to cause the party all this disruption.
     
  31. Suomi

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    Maybe this one: :bruised:

    Where are your ideas about what could and should happen? Anything to add? Should Corbyn go what would you like to happen?

    Anyone? No?
     
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  32. Penelope

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    By that token literally anybody who ever won a leadership election is electable. Ever heard of Iain Duncan Smith or Ed Miliband?
     
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    Owen Smith's signature policy is £200bn of infrastructure spending, which would be totally unprecedented. I'm not sure what's 'same old same old' about him that isn't 'same old same old' about Jeremy 'we should reopen the mines' Corbyn.
     
  34. Suomi

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    This is the problem though - it shouldn't be about who can deliver the best and bitchiest one-liners.
     
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    Yeah, Corbyn to resign and they have another leadership election (not a challenge). The MPs aren't great atm, but there's better than Eagle, Smith and Corbyn available.
     
  36. Alex

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    Well no, but it was all the better because it was true...
     
  37. Penelope

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    The Labour Party to have literally anything to say about the most wrenching change this country is going to face since World War II, what it should look like and what type of deal we should hold out for? Still not a single word from Saint Jez.
     
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  38. RobotBoy

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    It's a VALID POINT!
     
  39. Madison

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    If there was a God, he would give us PR and we can just kill put this party and its members out of their misery.
     
  40. Penelope

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    Yeah, the 'best and bitchiest' one-liners are generally only effective if they cut to a point that the other side has no response to. William Hague had plenty of amazing one-liners. He couldn't lay a finger on Blair because everyone knew beneath the wit the points were hollow.
     
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