Discussion in 'Current Affairs & Debate' started by Tetris-Rock, Jun 24, 2016.
I always supported Corbyn.
I love Jeremy
He's not just electable, he's delectable.
I think we can all agree
JC has SLAYED OUR HOLES
We've all got red holes this morning.
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Pretty happy to admit I was wrong.
Oh me too. Hopelessly. And I couldn't be much more thrilled right now.
Add me to that list. Although I'm curious to see how he continues as a leader without the backdrop of a campaign.
I'm curious as to how my MP gets behind him now, and the many others who resigned from his shadow cabinet. Because it's very obvious a huge amount of her vote was a vote for Corbyn, not her. I mean I know that's always the case, but even more so this time around.
Same here! I have lots of complex Feelings about this election that I'm finding hard to put into words, to be honest.
It was the manifesto wot did it. I've gone round in so many circles about Corbyn's prospects, but the moment he started espousing the kind of politics and policies that spoke to me, I was sold. Plus, I feel that he did get a ridiculously rough ride in the media.
If that toxic combination of Corbyn's supposed diva-ness and the media's insistence that he was unelectable had been shattered earlier on, I wonder where we would be now?
It's worth having a recap to remember the reason 80% of his MPs had no confidence in him a year ago was because of how he acted in the EU referendum. After 30 years of being anti EU his approach was unsurprisingly disinterested, his office sabotaged the official Labour In campaign headed up by Alan Johnson, rewriting his speeches to remove positive aspects of EU membership and he made very few appearances or speeches. There was absolutely none of the passion and vigour that he showed on the second leadership campaign or this election and understandably the MPs were fucked off and worried about the future. If you were angry at Slave at his vote, imagine how fucked off the Labour MPs were with Corbyn and his office.
And his general leadership skills were abysmal, with shadow cabinet members frustrated that he said and did little in meetings and let John McDonnell do all the talking and make the decisions.
A bit like Trump though he would absolutely detest having to do the day job. All those meetings, all that paperwork, all that travel, with no time for rallies or the allotment.
He's exceeded expectations but he has still lost an election (Labour's third in a row) against the worst Prime Minister in living memory with some hateful policies.
You're quite a glass half empty person, aren't you, Sharla?
But I see Sharla's point nonetheless.
After only a couple of hours sleep, probably more so than usual
The country has never felt more polarised.
Sharla I could easily write a four paragraph response to your spin there....but I don't need to.
I don't know if the country has ever been more polarised - perhaps not in my adult (i.e. voting) life. But then for the first time in a very long time the two main parties are offering very different things.
The fact that younger people seem more engaged than for a long time is also very positive. Although I may be feeling differently if my own beliefs were different.
Which one - the one where he compares Corbyn to DONALD TRUMP or the one where he blames Corbyn for Brexit?
He got 41% of the vote!
How do you feel about the way he dealt with the EU Referendum?
Isn't this a bit old news now?
There's no old news, new news. If we're talking about how we've come around, gurrl, its relevant.
As much as i am pro-EU, i think Corbyn's approach to the referendum in this campaign was spot on. Accept the result, fight for the best deal. He managed to shore up both pro-EU Labour voters & former Labour voters who drifted to UKIP.
Deffo. I hope that the election result will somehow give us a MUCH softer brexit, i.e. inclusion in the single market.
His lack of effort in the Brexit campaign was frustrating, but he was always anti-EU. He could have faked it much harder for the sake of politics and that he didn't fits in with his whole image, which has worked so well for him. His campaign was fucking marvellous and his policies are exciting to me.
I can't stop Brexit, nor can Corbyn. We remoaners can't stay angry about it forever, we're supposed to be the rational ones... There's a whole lot of other shit going on...
He couldn't win because the type of politics he conducts isn't part of the current British political climate. The problem with the Brexit vote was that it was presented as two extreme sides, where both those For and Against vilified the other - you were either racist or an idiot. i think it's pretty clear that Corbyn wanted to use the referendum as an opportunity to discuss a type of EU membership that gave migrant workers better rights - but in our current political climate if you say just one thing that is moderate they will jump on you and call you a traitor and say you're doing a crap job. Even now on moopy we have posters who blame Corbyn for the loss instead of the sustained and violent anti-immigration campaign that plagues our media.
Anyone who presents themselves as reasoned and thoughtful is an easy target for calling weak and stupid.
Sharla is a fucking TORY. We can hardly expect a resounding endorsement of our Corbz.
In terms of continuing his momentum as leader, I can see weak May and her regressive coalition partners being a pretty easy target.
In many ways it's a dream coalition to oppose. And hopefully the 'nasty Tory' label that they seem to have lost under Cameron will reaffix itself.
What an absolute shower of cunts.
No. It's only just about to begin.
I mean Corbyn's inactivity during the campaign.
I'll forgive him when I get my EU citizenship back.