Labour leadership race 2020

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Who gets the poisoned chalice?

Poll closed Apr 16, 2020.
  1. Clive Lewis

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  2. Rebecca Long-Bailey

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  3. Lisa Nandy

    30.8%
  4. Jess Phillips

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  5. Keir Starmer

    50.0%
  6. Emily Thornberry

    11.5%
  7. Barry Gardiner

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  1. wurst

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    I mean Angela Rayner is the only option really. I’m not adverse to them parachuting in a snarmy, rich white guy in a suit either as it’s clear they are the only thing voters respond to.
     
  2. Win_the_game

    Win_the_game PAZZESKA

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    Anyone but Long-Bailey.
     
  3. SDF

    SDF Moving on, to a brighter dawn

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    Diane to run again
     
  4. octophone

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    I think Starmer has to be an instant bet, at least to stand. He's good in interview, for one thing and we know how much that counts in our environment.
     
  5. jivafox

    jivafox Stay sexy don’t get murdered

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    The next one needs TEETH. I don’t think anybody can win clean anymore.
     
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  6. Beverley

    Beverley I Don't Wanna Change A THI-ING

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    Lord, I mean, what is a unifying figure even? Is it just another word for a centrist? I have to admit that I am torn. Can a leftist leader be elected in this country with all the odds and biases stacked against them? I don't know. Also, what makes us think that a centrist Labour leader wouldn't also have shit thrown at them - Gordon Brown did, so did Ed. This is an uphill battle.

    And it's an uphill battle for so many reasons. I would love someone like Angela Rayner to lead the party, but my gut fear is that Britain's problem with class will be an impeding factor. Just as much as the Etonians believe they were born to rule, there are people in this country who have internalised the idea that only some posh cunt is fit/experienced/intelligent enough to lead the country. This country is such a fucking mess.
     
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  7. VoR

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    I said in the other thread that this election was a resounding failure for Corbyn-brand socialism. However, realistically the Momentum crowd aren't going to totally dissipate. The next leader will still have to answer to the active left wing of the party. That's potentially a good thing - it'll check the party from sliding too far to the right. But only if they elect somebody for whom the communist and antisemitism slurs won't stick.

    Angela Rayner or Kier Starmer for me. I prefer Rayner as a personality, but I do fear the curse of women in power and referendums on their 'likability'. For similar reasons I feel Jess Phillips would be a disaster.
     
  8. bypass

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    This made me laugh sorry :D
     
  9. jivafox

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    Oh I really didn’t mean it like that :D I love Corbs’ snaggletooth.
     
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  10. lolly

    lolly Rowena? From Kuwait?

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    I've not had the radio or tv on this morning. What has Corbyn actually said - just that he won't lead into the next election?
     
  11. bypass

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    I know :D

    I just conjured up this idea of bizarre party leader requirements in my head.

    1. Must have a clear stance on Brexit etc etc

    2. Must have own set of own teeth(Those with high quality denchers or firmly fixed implants will be considered if they score highly in other criteria!)
     
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  12. Ag

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    He's kinda clinging on and not accepting blame.
     
  13. octophone

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    He needs to resign. It would be churlish and blinkered not to.
     
  14. Ag

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    He actually referred to his mandate which made me cringe.
     
  15. bypass

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    He needs to go now, Labour need to regroup now. Fuck sake.
     
  16. ButterTart

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    Long-Bailey needs to be kept as far away from this race as possible. Preferably in a sealed container deep underground. Starmer or Rayner would be my picks. I don’t think Jess Phillips is leadership material, but I would like to see her take a more prominent role in the party. Her unwillingness to toe the party line, give a vague answer or adhere to parliamentary convention makes her one of the most relatable MPs full stop.
     
  17. VoR

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    Corbyn confirms he'll be gone early next year. That seems fair enough.
     
  18. Shirley

    Shirley BIG-HEARTED BUNNY

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    Good TEETH are worth more votes than you might THINK
     
  19. VoR

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    I've re-joined the Labour party. I let my membership lapse out of general DESPAIR a few years ago, but I don't feel good about bitching from the side lines any more.
     
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  20. Ag

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    I echo Ang or Kier.
     
  21. SDF

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    How likely is it that Emily will run? Surely she is much more competent than Long Bailey?
     
  22. Penelope

    Penelope DON'T TALK TO ME

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    As it goes, I think Starmer's probably just the ticket. He has gravitas, and I suspect the public will have had quite enough of personality after five years of Boris.
     
  23. Penelope

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    More competent but the last thing we need. She (much as it's deeply unfair) has the same sort of repellent vibe as Diane Abbott on a lot of voters, because she gets thought of as posh and hectoring and as someone who's looking down on them.
     
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  24. Shirley

    Shirley BIG-HEARTED BUNNY

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    I LOVE EMILY THORNBERRY but it would NEVER work
     
  25. Ag

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    Emily would be a disaster.
     
  26. VoR

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    She's so gay interest only she might as well be a Rachel Stevens album.
     
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  27. Lucille

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    Sexy Keir please.
     
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  30. Crash

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    I'm down for a Keir as leader and Jess Phillips as deputy
     
  31. Peekaboo

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    You're all smoking something strong if you think Angela Rayner has a SNOWBALL IN HELL chance of getting elected as Prime Minister. Do you even know the country you live in?!
     
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  32. Ag

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    I have to admit further thought says Keir and Jess would be my dream team for the 2024 flop.
     
  33. SDF

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    I’m not sure it’d look particularly great if Keir got the job with a sea of female candidates on the ballot
     
  34. Sheena

    Sheena MAKE IT QUICK, LUCILLE!

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    It surely has to be a woman. The party of equality and all that is the only one not to have had a female leader
     
  35. Diddy

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    think of the OPTICS!
     
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    Jess Phillips who gleefully joins in on the media's haranguing of Diane Abbot but considers Jacob Rees-Mogg a pal is very much not the leader Labour needs if they want to keep the support of the young and diverse activist base that has been booming under Corbyn. We shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater, because those people were doing most of the legwork in this election.
     
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  37. Beverley

    Beverley I Don't Wanna Change A THI-ING

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    Exactly.

    But the biggest question here really is, can the British people bring themselves to elect a Prime Minister who not only comes from a working class background, but still sounds like it. That's the sticking point I see for a lot of the women being suggested as Labour leaders (before we even start thinking about whether Britain can stomach a POC like Dawn Foster or David Lammy or one day Sadiq Khan)
     
  38. Indie

    Indie REMAIN INDOORS

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    I think it does have to be a woman. Even though i'd say Keir is the most natural leader of the candidates. Personally i'd like to see Clive Lewis up there - he has a good manner and shows a lot of humility.

    But again, should be a woman.
     
  39. VoR

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    Not that I think she's the one, but the number of people calling Jess Phillips a Tory, a Blairite, claiming they'd leave the party if she won etc is depressing me.

    Nothing has been learned.
     
  40. cwej

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    They're literally NOT the party of equality. They're the party for the working class.

    The Lib Dems are the party of equality.
     

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