Discussion in 'Divas' started by Loufoque, Dec 5, 2009.
"It complented your EYES"
LOVE how Mariah is quite clearly aghast that anybody could be attracted to an arrogant cunt like Carson.
okay so Glitter was included in the Mariah on TRL segment...meaning with 3/4 I don't have a CLUE what the #1 is?
Manorexic cunty Carson Daly
DON'T CALL IT A COMEBACK
Clive Davis knows his divas. He knows that a diva needs at least 7 #1 singles. He knows that a diva needs a signature song with melody and lyric. He knows that a diva goes through struggles (eg. being a single mother). But most of all, he knows that in order to become a legend, a diva needs a comeback.
Whitney was ready to pack it all in. Girl was happy to move to the islands and set up her fruit stand. She had obviously been listening to My Love Is Your Love on repeat for those cracked out seven years in her pyjamas, because only a joint laced with reggae-lite R&B stylings would convince THE VOICE that she was actually THE UM BONGO LADY.
Thankfully, the man who has done more musical mercy killings than Harold Shipman on a trip to the old folks' home on karaoke night (HI KELLY CLARKSON'S CAREER) wasn't ready to call time on Whitney just yet. Without the comeback, the story wasn't finished.
We had heard rumblings about the album as early as 2006, when Whitney had successfully emerged from rehab. We were promised it in 2007, 2008... and just when it seemed like it was never going to surface, there it was.
Looking like a lioness who had downloaded a load of Photoshop software on Safari, I Look To You suddenly stopped being a wonderful gay dream and became a wonderful gay reality. Leaks started trickling as early as 2008, with Like I Never Left receiving an unfair mauling from jealous Akon haters, and I Didn't Know My Own Strength earning less than stellar plaudits at the Moopy First Listen Party. We should have known better.
The album contained track after track that would only further bamboozle cwej thanks to his inability to understand the dimensions of 11 and 13/10 moments. I remember the day I Look To You leaked with great fondness. I was flying to New York the next morning at 6am, but couldn't not download it. Especially after POP! had gone to so much effort to find it for us. Even Star was bowled over.
As for me, I wasn't just loving it, I was living for it.
I listened to it on the plane, I listened to it in Central Park, I listened to it in my hotel room. If Dr Seuss had known how to hack inboxes to get hold of unreleased comeback albums, he would have totally written a book about this one.
But the music was only the start of it. What we really wanted to see was the interview. The two-day extravaganza. Even the trailers gave me chills. OPRAH. WHITNEY. THE INTERVIEW. NO TOPIC LEFT UNCOVERED. George W Bush could give an interview tomorrow saying that Osama Bin Laden was actually just an elaborate work of fiction and bitches would lose much less of their shit than they did over this towering work of televisual ferocity. Even though I'm SO OVER Kathy Griffin these days, I can't deny that our girl broke it down better than I ever could.
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The vocals may have been a bit shaky on some performances (the less said about most of Good Morning America and that hideous version of I Wanna Dance With Somebody on Dancing With The Stars the better), but there was no denying it. OUR GIRL HAD FINALLY COME HOME.
WHITNEY VS OPRAH
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I DIDN'T KNOW MY OWN STRENGTH LIVE @ AMAs
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It may not have been the funniest moment, or the most cracked out, the most ridiculous, but it was 100% my favourite diva related thing to happen in the last ten years. The Emancipation was a bigger success, but Mariah never fell as far as Whitney did. Besides, Mariah's cartoonish personality means that her breakdown and comeback was the equivalent of Wiley Coyote being hit by a boulder then getting up two minutes later to carry on with some ridiculous hijinx in the quest for another #1 single (US ONLY). Whitney stared death in the face.
And death was scared.
Only one diva in the game could pull that shit off and make it back.
I SALUTE YOU WHITNEY
THANKS 4 READING GUYS
No, thank you Lou for the countdown
Along with Teri Hatcher being relevant again, the I Look To You comeback is the PINNACLE of the rejuvenating career in Hollywood this past decade.
Plus, I always have a hard time deciding which album is better: My Love Is Your Love or I Look To You. I think they're both about equal.
Well done on the countdown, Lou!
I Look to You was truly better than anything I expected it to be, great songs and Whitney sounded ever present on it. I have a feeling though that from this point on it will be Christmas and gospel albums ahoy. I do hope we get another proper studio album of new original material though.
I kind of don't
Whitney has never been prolific and this album has done its job - even if no further singles are released from it
I like the idea that this closes the chapter and she can go off to be a legend and do whatever she wants from now on
Oh my. This is such a I LOOK TO LOU-OOH (ooh) moment. I could cry.
A perfect summary of this wonderful, yet slightly cracky, fairytale ending to the decade.
Here's to the next chart in 2019. I can't wait for the lowdown on Beyonce's crystal meth addiction, Leona's descent into lesbian porn, and the world-conquering comeback of Wendy Moten.
This did make me guffaw.
That was an epic countdown
I LOVED (and LIVED FOR) this THREAD
This thread is amazing. #25 was probably the funniest
ain't got nu'n but love for this thread.
I didn't want my thread to peak too quickly
I'd probably argue though that Mariah's comeback was a bigger moment than Whitney's. Yes, Mariah has screwed things up since, but at the time she was widely known to be on the dumpwagon, whereas Whitney just seemed to quietly flop with 'Just Whitney'.
Glitter + Glitter album + total public breakdown + Charmbracelet
Just Whitney + a continuation of a well-known public drug addiction
Also, "The Emancipation..." was a HUGE selling album, "I Look To You" has probably already done the best it will do. Throw in Mariah's Grammy wins (Whitney- 0 nominations) , 'We Belong Together' crossing over, and the fact that Mariah seemed to have sorted herself out mentally vs Whitney STILL obviously taking something as witnessed on X Factor
It's a messy post but you get the idea
The Emancipation was way bigger, but it didn't resonate like I Look To You. Mariah never went away for one thing. Even during her commercial wilderness years, she was always there, plugging away. There were times, particularly between 2003-06 where it looked like Whitney would never record again. So it's nothing short of a miracle that we even got the album, let alone ended up with a lot of promotion, a tour and possibly some future singles out of it.
The build-up to the album for me was immense. Although we were getting leaks in 2004, Mimi kind of came out of nowhere. I Look To You was one of the most anticipated albums of the decade, and for me, it didn't disappoint.
A big difference between Mariah and Whitney is that Whitney is a TRUE diva. You wouldn't catch her on GMTV or the Paul O'Grady Show. Everything she does is strictly A-list. Scarcity makes things seem more exciting and even though we've had a lot of Whitney in 2009 (relative to the rest of the decade), she has still never felt overexposed so there's still a sense of OMG every time she does a performance or an interview. And largely nearly every single one has been an EVENT.
There was a time that Madonna was also like that.
Madonna just needs a SVENGALI
IT COULD BE U SUEDEHEAD
I'd forgotten all about those, and with good reason!
I too salute you, even though The Greatest Hits is (all I've got in this world, but it's) ALL the Whitney that I need.
I Look To You is everything, definitely one of her best albums - her second best I'd say.
I thought 911 Breakdown would be #1, but I Look To You is such a great way to close the diva moments of the decade.
'I Look To You' does feel a lot more SPECIAL musically than Mariah's "comeback", perhaps Lou is right - almost every word is delivered in a way that makes you savour the moment becuase a) it was so long coming and b) may never come again.
That said, Mariah's comeback as a WHOLE still feels like a real TRIUMPH. I think she achieved a LOT more commercially and critically than Whitney will (perhaps because it never felt like anyone ever TURNED on Whitney, they just seemed to want her to get her act together and get back to what she's good at).
To me, Mariah is the only diva who's REALLY scored a bona fide COMEBACK. 'I Look To You' has done WELL, but let's face it, she's not going to be pulling 3-4 top 10 singles from it and the album isn't going to linger around the charts like 'The Emancipation...' did - though granted, Mariah was REALLY pushing the album whereas Whitney IS a lot more selective. To be honest, in the UK at least, the project has already done better than I ever imagined it would in any case.
Said it once, I'll say it twice.
Great stuff Lou, tho my #1 is your #2. Still, one hell of a brilliant thread.
what a fabulous, fabulous thread
THESE SHORTS ARE REALLY SHORT!
WE GOTTA DISCUSS THIS!
TO YOU LOU
yes, but am i singin'??? am i singin' or what!?!
Funny thread, a lot of it I didn't get but crackhead Whitney is always entertaining.
Is this entire performance live?
I'm sorry to blow my own trumpet, but I've just reread this thread and it is DEEPLY FABULOUS
But I have to admit that the Number 1 sort of has a bit of a bitter AFTERTASTE after the FACT.
In retrospect, I may have jumped the gun on THAT ONE slightly
Doesn't seem very triumphant today.
Lou you've totally stolen my entire morning with this thread but I wouldn't ask for one second of it back. How I had not seen this thread before is beyond me but dahling I love you and I do live for you.
Moopy Gold restoration THANKS