Madame X - 6 months later..

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  1. Suedey

    Suedey Run Away With Me

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    It doesn't feel like it's already been six months! I still love this album and I do listen it an awful lot. Some of my favourites have changed. Looking forward to the live show(s) in 2020 so reinvigorate my interest even more.

    So, let's re-rate the songs 6 months down the line... shall we?

    Medellin
    Dark Ballet
    God Control
    Future
    Batuka
    Killers Who Are Partying
    Crave
    Crazy
    Come Alive
    Extreme Occident
    Faz Gostoso
    Bitch I'm Loca
    I Don't Search I Find
    Looking For Mercy
    I Rise

    Funana
    Back That Up To The Beat
    Ciao Bella
     
  2. Suedey

    Suedey Run Away With Me

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    09 Medellin
    09 Dark Ballet
    11 God Control
    09 Future
    09 Batuka
    09 Killers Who Are Partying
    09 Crave
    10 Crazy
    09 Come Alive
    10 Extreme Occident
    10 Faz Gostoso
    07 Bitch I'm Loca
    09 I Don't Search I Find
    07 Looking For Mercy
    08 I Rise

    06 Funana
    06 Back That Up To The Beat
    07 Ciao Bella

    LOON UP! :disco:
     
  3. Sheena

    Sheena MAKE IT QUICK, LUCILLE!

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    That rate is ridiculous :D
     
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  4. OutSynk

    OutSynk My name isn’t Alice

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    I know right only a 7 for Bitch I'm Loca?:argh:
     
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  5. lolly

    lolly Rowena? From Kuwait?

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    09 Medellin
    08 Dark Ballet
    09 God Control
    06 Future
    09 Batuka
    07 Killers Who Are Partying
    09 Crave
    07 Crazy
    09 Come Alive
    08 Extreme Occident
    08 Faz Gostoso
    07 Bitch I'm Loca
    07 I Don't Search I Find
    05 Looking For Mercy
    06 I Rise

    ?? Funana
    ?? Back That Up To The Beat
    ?? Ciao Bella
     
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  6. lolly

    lolly Rowena? From Kuwait?

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    I think I listened to the last three on YouTube once, but certainly don't remember anything about them.
     
  7. Suedey

    Suedey Run Away With Me

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    I like Funana if I'm in a 'speshul' / 'voice of an angle' / S.Ure mood type of mood.

    Ciao Bella is okay but vastly overrated by the fanzzz.

    Back That Up wasn't much cop when it leaked as part of the RH sessions and it's not much better now.
     
  8. vespertine

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    I'm glad to see a sensible rating for Looking for Mercy. To me that song is the Wash All Over Me (final) of this album: a dirge.
     
  9. Sheena

    Sheena MAKE IT QUICK, LUCILLE!

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    09 Medellin
    09 Dark Ballet
    09 God Control
    06 Future
    06 Batuka
    07 Killers Who Are Partying
    10 Crave
    10 Crazy
    07 Come Alive
    09 Extreme Occident
    10 Faz Gostoso
    06 Bitch I'm Loca
    06 I Don't Search I Find
    08 Looking For Mercy
    07 I Rise

    05 Funana
    03 Back That Up To The Beat
    05 Ciao Bella
     
  10. Suedey

    Suedey Run Away With Me

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    My cravings get DANGEROUS *eyes Celebrations box* :( :disco:
     
  11. SDF

    SDF Bigger Than Us, OUT NOW

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    The only ones I ever really go back to are Crave and Medellin

    Crazy and Faz Gostoso are also worth a spin
     
  12. vespertine

    vespertine In the name of love

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    Batuka, God Control, Platinum Gold, Come Alive, and Extreme Occident are all still 10/10s. :disco:

    And Ciao Bella is a 9.
     
  13. Jark

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    I really don't care at all.

    I would score a lot of the individual songs quite highly but I just don't want to listen to any of it. Maybe because it's so out of kilter with the kinds of stuff I'm so into lately, but also because the idea of putting it on just feels like a drag.
     
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  14. RaspberrySwirl

    RaspberrySwirl Leftover

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    I’ve not revisited since last summer.
     
  15. Christian

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    Oh gosh. It's decent, isn't it? And idiosyncratic too. But no more than that.

    All hail to the fact that she went out of her way to make it its own thing.

    6/10.
     
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  16. Suedey

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    1. Like a Prayer
    2. Ray of Light
    3. Confessions on a Dance Floor
    4. Erotica
    5. Music
    6. Bedtime Stories
    7. American Life
    8. Madame X
    9. True Blue
    10. Madonna
    11. Like a Virgin
    12. Rebel Heart
    13. Hard Candy
    14. MDNA


    I think.
     
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  17. RaspberrySwirl

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    The definite top:
    01. Ray of Light
    02. Music
    03. Like a Prayer

    These always change:
    04. Erotica
    05. Confessions on a Dancefloor
    06. Bedtime Stories
    07. American Life

    The Classiques (that sometimes rank above previous group):
    08. True Blue
    09. Like a Virgin
    10. Madonna

    :turd::
    11. Hard Candy
    12. Madame X
    13. Rebel Heart
    14. Mdna
     
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  18. POP!

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    1. True Blue
    2. Erotica
    3. Ray of Light
    4. Like a Prayer
    5. Music
    6. Confessions on a Dance Floor
    7. Bedtime Stories
    8. Like a Virgin
    9. Madonna
    10. Rebel Heart
    11. Hard Candy
    12. American Life
    13. Madame X
    14. MDNA

    admittedly, I haven’t given Madame X much of a chance to settle in. But the first few plays weren’t promising...
     
  19. BoysForSeles

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    With a couple of the fluffy tracks taken off Madame X could really have been boxed off with Ray Of Light, Music & American Life in her repertoire. I feel she almost self sabotaged a good record with too many silly gimmicks in the promo and interviews.
     
  20. Jark

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    I just had quite a moment to God Control, it's the first time I've played anything by her in months

    and now I've moved onto BEAUTIFUL STRANGER :disco: yassss!
     
  21. Sheena

    Sheena MAKE IT QUICK, LUCILLE!

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    You what? Wasn’t Madame X the greatest album of all time or something six months ago? :D
     
  22. Jark

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    no
     
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  23. Penelope

    Penelope DON'T TALK TO ME

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    First Madonne album I've listened to all the way through more than once in years but I can't say it's one I've gone back to at all. It's absolutely the right direction for her though.

    Faz Gostoso and Medellin (and maybe God Control) are the only ones I can be bothered with these days.
     
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    Still really enjoy the album whenever I play it, but I don't often play it. I think it's her whole attitude and "image"(cough) that puts me off these days.

    Anyway, I presume we won't be getting any new music for years, so I really, really wish she would finally treat her back catalogue with some respect and use this time to issue some brilliant remastered expanded editions(a la Prince's 1999 reissue or PSB's reissues). Is there any chance of that actually happening though? 2020 would be as good a time as any for it.
     
  25. Sheena

    Sheena MAKE IT QUICK, LUCILLE!

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    She refuses to look back, which is the issue.

    I’m amazed Warners haven’t done anything with her other than vinyl reissues, though.
     
  26. lolly

    lolly Rowena? From Kuwait?

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    Who owns what?
     
  27. Sheena

    Sheena MAKE IT QUICK, LUCILLE!

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    Who knows. But you’d imagine Warners must have the rights over the early stuff- or we wouldn’t have gotten those shit expanded CD reissues a while back.
     
  28. Suedey

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    Yeah I don't think she owns her own masters. But you never know, she may have 'bought' them as part of her severance package when she left Warner in 2008 - which may explain why there's been nothing apart from shitty coloured vinyl reissues with no extra effort.

    Then again, I have heard rumours that Warners are keen to do more stuff with her back catalogue and she keeps blocking it. Apparently it's got to do with (surprise, surprise) money.

    Lest we forget the box set that Caresse Henry had been planning around 2004 was blocked by Madonna herself.
     
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  29. Suedey

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    There have just been so many missed opportunities.

    2016 for 30th anniversary of True Blue would have been great as her Billboard Awards speech that year had a lot of positive buzz that they could have capitalised on.

    2019 for 30th anniversary of Like a Prayer would have been great to build momentum prior to the release of Madame X.


    Part of the problem also is that she is surrounded by a team of yes people who are largely incompetent as well. I'm no great fan of Guy Oseary as a manager but I have heard a rumour that he's actually quit as her manager. This may or may not be a good thing.
     
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  30. Sheena

    Sheena MAKE IT QUICK, LUCILLE!

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    But LIKE A PRAYER TOTE BAGS!
     
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  31. Suedey

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    And EROTICA candles!!! :manson:
     
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  32. vespertine

    vespertine In the name of love

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    SEX Book - 2020 Edition

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  33. HeLikedTurner

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    I know she doesn't like to "look back", but it makes no business sense to ignore reissues. She doesn't even have to lift a finger. Warners could do all the work, while she continues with her unwanted film project, face/body surgeries, twink boyfriends etc. At least it would keep her name out there a little bit and might even remind some people why they adored her in the first place.
     
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  34. Sheena

    Sheena MAKE IT QUICK, LUCILLE!

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    But that’s just it- maybe it just makes her realise how irrelevant she is now
     
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    She does seem resistant to being any sort of legacy artiste. If it makes her feel better perhaps she can package each reissue with a disc of Madame X demos.
     
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    Another 2020 update:
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