New Labour Leader

Discussion in 'Current Affairs & Debate' started by Ag, May 8, 2015.

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The blonde one, the brunette, the one with the beard or Björn?

Poll closed Feb 24, 2017.
  1. Andy Burnham

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  2. Yvette Cooper

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  3. Jeremy Corbyn

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  4. Liz Kendall

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  1. Sharla

    Sharla The Resistance

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    Are you going to bother with the fourth preference vote?
     
  2. Penelope

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    There's not actually any point in a fourth preference vote, it just tends to be a symbol of whether you think they're beneath the role or not.

    -x-

    Anyway time for some WOTES

    1 Liz Kendall
    2 Yvette Cooper
    3 Andy Burnham

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    1 Ben Bradshaw
    2 Caroline Flint
    3 Stella Creasy
    4 Angela Eagle

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    1 Christian Wolmar
    2 Tessa Jowell
    3 David Lammy
    4 Gareth Thomas
    5 Sadiq Khan
    6 Diane Abbott
     
  3. Kate

    Kate she's for the streets BITCH

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    Go on then

    1 Jeremy Corbyn
    2 Yvette Cooper
    3 Andy Burnham
    4 Liz Kendall

    1 Stella Creasy
    2 Tom Watson
    3 Caroline Flint
    4 Angela Eagle
    5 Ben Bradshaw

    1 Tessa Jowell
    2 Diane Abbott
    3 Sadiq Khan
    4 David Lammy
    5 Christian Wolmar
    6 Gareth Thomas
     
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  4. Kate

    Kate she's for the streets BITCH

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    So I went tactical for Mayor in the end, though I then put Diane second cos I felt guilty.
     
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    Penelope SMIRKING LESBIAN MOON

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    I went tactical for mayor - I don't want Wolmar to be the candidate, but he doesn't stand a chance of winning so the transfer will go to Tessa basically immediately, and I want him to at least do respectably enough he gets picked up as Transport adviser or something.

    Ditto Ben Bradshaw, who doesn't stand a chance but he's wonderful and doesn't deserve to come last. Flipped a coin for which one out of Caz and Stella got my second preference.
     
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    Indie Great Tits IN THE SNOW

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    I haven't voted yet. But same as this apart from Burnham/cooper swapping and I think I prefer Watson to Bradshaw.
     
  7. Sharla

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    Maybe a daft question but do non Londoners get to vote on the mayoral candidacy?
     
  8. Penelope

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    Nah.
     
  9. Kate

    Kate she's for the streets BITCH

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    Oh whoops I left Tom Watson out. I think I put him second, I've forgotten already :shy:
     
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    This article is unsurprisingly getting a lot of attention.

    Ruth Davidson joined the wrong party.
     
  11. Shirley

    Shirley BIG-HEARTED BUNNY

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    Clare Balding? FUCK OFF
     
  12. Kate

    Kate she's for the streets BITCH

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    Ewww, the Spectator :gross:
     
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    The other one is Stephanie McGovern.
     
  14. Shirley

    Shirley BIG-HEARTED BUNNY

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    I seem to have got on my new MP's mailing list now :daf:

    I've just been emailed the opportunity to meet BEN BRADSHAW in the GOLDEN EAGLE

    Like the kind of SLEAZY DATE one used to go on in one's sordid youth
     
  15. Sharla

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    Gender segregated trains aside I'm bored of this now.
     
  16. loomer

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    I wish this would hurry the fuck up! Honestly, it's more drawn out than the fucking referendum. :manson: It's really getting on my tits.
     
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    You do remember that was going on for like TWO YEARS right?

    But yes I just want this all OVER
     
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  18. Eileen

    Eileen All the better to see you with, my dear.

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    This is getting more coverage than Ed Milliband managed for the entirety of his tenure in opposition.
     
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    Well yeah but 2 years seemed like a lifetime away.. I'm talking about the big build up...
     
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    Diane Abbott just keeps on giving.

    Erm, you mean the party will never forgive people like you and Jeremy Corbyn, the ones who constantly moan and whinge and go public with every little gripe and constantly vote against Labour policy?

    If she doesn't get elected into the shadow cabinet and take a high profile role I'm going to be deeply unhappy.
     
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    Madison Everything goes up by six

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    I voted yesterday:

    1. Liz Kendall
    2. Yvette Cooper
    3. Andy Burnham (:manson: hardest vote I've ever cast)
    (4. Corbyn)


    1. Ben Bradshaw
    2. Dr Stella Creasy
    3. Angela Eagle
    4. Caroline Flint
    (5. Watson)

    1. Dr Christian Wolmar
    2. DAME Tessa Jowell
    3. Gareth Thomas
    4. Sadiq Khan
    5. David Lammy
    (6. Abbott)
     
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    I'm not sure whether shadow cabinet elections will happen or not - it's being speculated that Corbyn's thinking of backtracking on them. Not least because it would weaken him hugely to have a shadow cabinet mostly opposed to his agenda, but also because he'll need an appointed Cabinet by the Monday after the result on the 12th.
     
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    Kate she's for the streets BITCH

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    I keep seeing more and more people saying their application has been rejected, and EVERY SINGLE LAST ONE OF THEM voted for or was planning to vote for Corbyn. What a fucking SHAMBLES. If Cooper soars to a surprise victory now WE KNOW WHY
     
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    Apparently the Labour party are making plans for the expected Corbyn win. From what I gather he's going to let a lot of his fans down, because he loves a birrova compromise.
     
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    Given how time stretched the vetters are, most of them will probably have been really blatant on social media or otherwise about not really identifying as Labour supporters until Corbyn entered. And yeah - it's great that there's a candidate who can change the minds of many from other parties over who they support. But it's a bit of a stretch for them to describe themselves as people who support the Labour Party and sign up to its aims and values if they only support the party on the condition their candidate wins.
     
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    Maybe they *are* labour supporters who had been previously disilluisioned by the wishy washy vanilla-hued leadership of Ed and have now been reinvigorated by someone who isn't afraid to share their principles with honesty and credibility.

    As a former Labour voter, I'm very tempted to get back on board with Jezza at the helm. The party itself needs to get over this irrational fear of him.
     
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    Madison Everything goes up by six

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    Why is a fear of Jeremy Corbyn irrational?
     
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    because you cannot express it as a ratio of two integers.
     
  29. Kate

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    Quite! Some of us support the ORIGINAL aims and values of the Labour Party, not the watered down centrist Blairite version! If they reject me I shall be pointing out that I was a YOOF member back in the 90s.
     
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    Many are former supporters - but not all of them were out shouting loud that another party was the only answer four months ago. You'll find that as a rule, the party doesn't really care about supporters that voted for another party in May - and pretty much all of them will be able to vote fine. If someone's been campaigning publicly for another party it's a different matter. They may well have converted to Labour in the meantime, they may well stay supporting Labour.

    But it's probably a little soon - for now - to argue that they're legitimate supporters of the Labour Party rather than just the party on their terms - the principles of Labour include Clause I just as much as Clause IV. The one that made me laugh was that idiot the other week moaning that he'd been rejected even though he's on the national executive of the National Health Action Party (and STILL IS!), which is a bit like saying you weren't cheating because the other person you were sleeping with loves Kylie too.
     
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  32. Madison

    Madison Everything goes up by six

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    I didn't think the principles of Labour included Clause IV anymore. Ed Miliband's moves towards it were the main reason I left the party.

    EDIT: Ah, After Googling I see exactly what Clause IV technically is. I like the current version.
     
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    Eileen All the better to see you with, my dear.

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    Also people seem to fetishise the old Clause IV more as a symbol rather than what it actually states. Do many of the people supporting the old Clause IV really think *everything* should be nationalised/mutualised?
     
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  35. Madison

    Madison Everything goes up by six

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    Urgh. It's Sadiq Khan.
     
  36. VoR

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    What's so bad about him?
     
  37. Shirley

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    Not as GLAMOROUS as DAME TESSA JOWELL
     
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    To be fair I would have voted for Tessa based on this Tweet alone

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Favourite Cher song? (N.B Not Cher Lloyd) <a href="https://twitter.com/TessaJowell">@TessaJowell</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AskTessa?src=hash">#AskTessa</a></p>&mdash; Ed Brody (@chiefbrody1984) <a href="https://twitter.com/chiefbrody1984/status/606404807767793664">June 4, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I Got you Babe. Obvs. Spin Doctors would want me to say Strong Enough. But I have a mind of my own. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AskTessa?src=hash">#AskTessa</a> <a href="https://t.co/JRVvSWKSoz">https://t.co/JRVvSWKSoz</a></p>&mdash; Tessa Jowell (@TessaJowell) <a href="https://twitter.com/TessaJowell/status/606412731235860481">June 4, 2015</a></blockquote>
    <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
     
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  39. Madison

    Madison Everything goes up by six

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    Boring, uninspiring, and probably less likely to be able to beat Zac Goldsmith.
     
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    Shirley BIG-HEARTED BUNNY

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    I'm surprised OUR DI did so well
     

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