Obama vs McCain - the 2008 US presidential election campaign

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Who do you WANT to be the next US president

Poll closed Nov 3, 2008.
  1. John McCain (Republican, Arizona)

    15.3%
  2. Barack Obama (Democrat, Illinois)

    75.0%
  3. Third-party candidate

    1.4%
  4. I don't really care

    8.3%
  1. Madison

    Madison Everything goes up by six

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    Apologies to Mrs Clinton for not waiting for her to concede, but now that the contest is entering a new phase, time for a new thread.

    Who do you want to be the next president of the united states?

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  2. Madison

    Madison Everything goes up by six

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    Here's what the current polls predict for the electoral college in November:

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    McCain 238
    Obama 276
    Ties 24
     
  3. Cécile

    Cécile Shep's Classic 12"

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    I've been in the Hillary camp since the beginning and her defeat is a huge dissapointment. Especially because she did so well in the beginning, it seems the nomination was hers for sure. I have a strong dislike of Obama, his inexperience, his religous believes and he's ugly too.

    I rather see McCain in office then him. Knowing there are quite a few policy difference, I think McCain being on the left/liberal side of the Republican party can become interesting. I haven't heard his views on Iran and Hamas to be honest, but when it comes to negotiations I believe ALL Americans grab the nukes way to easily.

    Well thanks to the US for missing yet another political opportunity.
     
  4. funky

    funky INCAPABLE

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    Obama by default. I still don't like him, but anyone but McCain. The last thing the US needs is a reverse to traditional conservatism
     
  5. Ellie

    Ellie Super talented triple threat

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    McCain was on SNL a few weeks ago and was actually quite funny.
     
  6. funky

    funky INCAPABLE

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    My GRANDAD can CRACK A JOKE Ellie

    doesn't mean I want him running FIFTY STATES
     
  7. Ellie

    Ellie Super talented triple threat

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    I'm not saying I want him in, just that he WAS funny.
     
  8. Indie

    Indie Great Tits

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    Is Ralph Nader standing again?
     
  9. jonhawk

    jonhawk Bluffin' with my muffin

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    Yes. He was supportive of the smaller candidates in the Democratic race (Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel) but did announce he would run for President back in February I think.
     
  10. Shirley

    Shirley BIG-HEARTED BUNNY

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    Either of my grandads would probably do a better job than YOU KNOW WHO

    And one of them has ALZHEIMERS and the other one's DEAD
     
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  11. Ag

    Ag BRING BACK TAGS

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    Going from Hillary to McCain is just retarded I'm afraid. It's chopping off your nose to spite... etc etc
     
  12. Sheena

    Sheena MAKE IT QUICK, LUCILLE!

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    Is there any truth in the rumour that the Republicans, in a DESPERATE last-ditch attempt to combine the BLACK and FEMALE vote are going to ask Mel B to step in as their Presidential Candidate ?
     
  13. Shirley

    Shirley BIG-HEARTED BUNNY

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    She'll turn that down while she's still in with a SHOUT for the next PAPACY
     
  14. Indie

    Indie Great Tits

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    I know who i'm rooting for then!
     
  15. cwej

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    Who is Ralph Kader?

    100% Obama for me. I never thought there was much between him and Hilary anyway.
     
  16. cwej

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    Americans annoy me with their crappy choice of red and blue for right and left wing politics... :angry: I got really confused by that map as I do every time I read about American politics! :(
     
  17. Ellie

    Ellie Super talented triple threat

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    Is it any different than us having Red/Blue/Yellow for Labour/Con/Lib Dem?
     
  18. jonhawk

    jonhawk Bluffin' with my muffin

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    Yes. The American political colours are reverse of pretty much everywhere else in terms of ideology - red historically being associated with socialism/centre-left politics, and in America used for the Republican party.
     
  19. Ellie

    Ellie Super talented triple threat

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    Oh, I just got used to that distinction.
     
  20. Ellie

    Ellie Super talented triple threat

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    I like seeing how these big states in the middle have tiny populations. I get confused with the 2 letter abbreviations of them though. What is NE?
     
  21. funky

    funky INCAPABLE

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    but you know most of the America likes to do that anyway. So passionate... yet so dim

    Mind you, it's the democrats, so they deserve slightly more credit
     
  22. jonhawk

    jonhawk Bluffin' with my muffin

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    Nebraska.
     
  23. Madison

    Madison Everything goes up by six

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    For comparison's sake, here was Hillary's last map:

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    McCain 194
    Clinton 327

    It's hard to see how a democrat who could take California and Florida could lose. She had a tighter lock on Ohio and Pennsylvania too.
     
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  24. jonhawk

    jonhawk Bluffin' with my muffin

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    I think Pennsylvania will be a tough battle. McCain has large support there, might end up closer than it looks on paper.

    McCain will certainly take Florida also. Governor Charlie Crist is a potential running mate - and additional to that he's already planned for and started to implement HUGE machinery to help McCain.

    Obama has a good chance at Nevada if Hillary is on the ticket and it's quite reasonable to expect a good showing in South Carolina.
     
  25. Madison

    Madison Everything goes up by six

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    I feel McCain is likely to take Florida with or without Crist. I'm not sure he's that likeable in the rest of the country, and he's bachelor too. He'd be better off picking a running mate from Penn, Ohio, Michigan, that kind of region.
     
  26. jonhawk

    jonhawk Bluffin' with my muffin

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    Yes I think there are a lot of factors that will just naturally place Flordia into McCain's column.

    Ohio is interesting, it is undoubtedly vital to win - I think the electioneering machine for Obama needs to set really firm grassroots campaigning there particularly. Hillary could very well be a useful tool here with high numbers of blue and white collar workers - who have come out strong for her this season.

    In a similar vein, West Virginia and Virginia are places where a strong and united Democratic ticket may work wonders.
     
  27. loomer

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    Oops I clicked wrong one, getting sleepy. Barack!
     
  28. Zodiac

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    As much as i'd like Obama to win yada yada I just know i'm going to be thoroughly bored of this contest come November...
     
  29. Indie

    Indie Great Tits

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    I've no idea, who is Ralph Kader?
     
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    I'd rather have a liberal republican than a conservative democrat. Besides most of the nation is very conservative and they'll stick to their party no matter who's on board. I'm just glad its not another Bush. Obama just doesn't seem to know what he's doing and that's really scary. He has little support in the White House and I doubt he'll get anything done.

    Higher taxes for social reform...no thanks. Sorry Obama I'd rather have economic stimulus to encourage new businesses.
     
  31. Madison

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  32. SDF

    SDF We're all Angles in Chainz

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    At this point in time, I just don't really care. I really feel that Hillary has been bullied out of the race, by the media and elites. Time and time again, we have been told that this race is over, but if it was indeed true then why did South Dakota rally around Clinton? And why has she won 10 of the last 14 primaries? If this race was so clean cut, then why did more people vote for Hillary Clinton to be the Nominee than ANY other candidate in primary season history? She has indeed, made history... but apparently that isn't enough. :(
     
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  33. jonhawk

    jonhawk Bluffin' with my muffin

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    The race was won by Obama, simple as.

    I think you'll feel differently as time goes on. If she becomes Obama's running mate, she'll be able to win a pretty large amount of her supporters over - I don't think there will be any whiff of sourness, she'll go into it 100%.

    There have been "unannounced" meetings between the two, I'm very eager to hear what's going to be said tomorrow night. :disco:
     
  34. TurnerPrize

    TurnerPrize time to dance

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    Will Hilly be too old/bored to have another bash in either 4 or 8 years time?
     
  35. Indie

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    I want this guy to win!

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  37. Madison

    Madison Everything goes up by six

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    Her statistic about winning the most votes is only accurate if you ignore all the caucuses and ignore the votes Michigan gave to none of the above.
     
  38. SDF

    SDF We're all Angles in Chainz

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    Oh don't get me started on the caucuses, what a JOKE.
     
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  39. loomer

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    I wondered that. 8 years seems too much.
     
  40. SDF

    SDF We're all Angles in Chainz

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    She'll still be younger than McCain is just now.
     

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