Discussion in 'Current Affairs & Debate' started by Madison, Jun 4, 2008.
The election fight between her and Templeton would have been brilliant.
I've decided - I want Wesley Clark to be Vice President.
Yeah it would be a smart choice to balance out the perception of a lack of security/foreign policy experience from Obama. Not mentioning the fact he's hugely more significant than McCain in the veteran stakes.
Florida (tie -> Red)
Montana (Red -> Blue)
Rev Jesse Jackson today said he'd like to cut Obama's nuts off for "talking down to black people".
That was nice of him.
does anyone have a graph of the polls across the weeks/months?
I see the current polls all the time but without a comparison to previous polls it's difficult to draw a pattern
from my estimation Obama seems to just keep gaining and gaining...
I don't understand it at all. I just drop by in this thread to see Madison's pretty colourful maps.
blue is good. red is bad.
the rest is just numbers!
Average on the graph:
The last few polls:
Silly Florida keeps changing its mind.
Nevada (Red -> Blue)
Missouri (Red -> Tie)
North Dakota (Red -> Tie)
I would vote for Obama if I could.
I'd vote for Barack. He's what seems best, mostly because I don't want McCain to put the country into more debt and put the economy further into the red.. I was rooting for Kucinich or Gravel before they dropped out though
How come those polls do percentages? Isn't it based on delegates won?
And how come the percentage polls are so even when the electorate maps have Obama winning 325-199
someone PLEASE EXPLAIN. It's been too long since I last watched The West Wing
You're right, it's the delegates that count - the polls are usuful for identifying broad trends. Besides, the candidate with the most number of votes lost has only lost in the 2000, 1888, and 1878 elections.
Wikipedia's page on the electoral college is quite good http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Electoral_College
This image shows how a closely matched number of actual votes can translate into a completely different result.
yeah. it depends on who wins each state. basically, if you win a state you win all the electoral college votes (delegates) which count towards the election. the more populous states have more delegates.. so basically, obama has more support in big states than mccain because a lot of the big states (New York.. California, etc) happen to be more democratic
any updates? Apparently McCain has had a horrible week over the Iraq pull-out coverage... Obama really put him into a lose-lose situation
Well there's loads being said about press bias towards Obama with his Middle-East and European trip. Three major US TV networks have sent their main news anchors over with Obama to have in depth interviews with him. The New York Times this week rejected an opinion piece from McCain because it wasn't juicy enough. This riled the McCain camp a fair bit!
I think overall this week, it's the sheer amount of coverage given to Obama that's most significant. He's trying to improve his image on foriegn policy credentials and I think the mass histeria over him in the media is actually improving the image regardless of the content. However Prime Minister Maliki of Iraq, said that Obama's Iraq plan was the most reasonable and he had the right timetable for withdrawl, compared to say McCain. That's a real boost for him.
It's probably more accurate to look at polls in swing states, which I guess is what the electoral maps Madison is posting takes into account.
The overall America-wide polls are interesting in terms of events and current issues the candidates face in the news - if one of the candidates has bad press, is perceived badly or is at the centre of a scandal they will probably face a dip in the national polls. So it's an interesting measure for that.
Looking at the polls for Ohio, for example, it's evident that Obama is pulling away slightly from McCain - a key swing state, so that's good news for Team Obama. In places like Virginia, where Obama hopes to do well in traditionally Republican states, the polls again are on his side, not a crucial swing state as such, but a good indication on what effect he is having on the demographics he hopes to claim back from the Bush victories.
(270 needed to win)
The polls have tightened incredibly. The latest four polls show only a one percentage point difference between Obama and McCain.
47-46 to McCain
45-44 to Obama
47-46 to Obama
45-44 to Obama
I really liked that McCain ad that compared Obama to Britney Spears
It really made me see Obama in a different light
Maybe he should release an album
McCain will win.
:usa: won't choose a prez lol. :
(270 needed to win)
i dont know if McCain will make it all 4 years. Soooo OLD! lol
bloody hell he's closed the gap.... WHY
Because BARACK'S NOT HILLARY
I'm still having therapy over Hilary - let's not drag that up
Part of it could just be statisical blips - there's no definite trend yet
The adverts portraying Obama as a celebrity seemed to have had an effect though.
The South Ossetian War should play into McCain's hands - he made a bit of a blooper though when he claimed that in the 21st centuries, countries shouldn't be invading others. What was he voting for in 2003 then?
Bad news, almost definitely not going to be VP. She's been giving a slot to speak earlier on in the Convention, which makes little sense if she's going to be back two days later to accept the nomination.
i cant compete with that level of photoshopping
I didn't photoshop it you retard.
Who the fuck do you think you are triple mansoning me for that?
HAHA you're pissed off cause McCain is gonna win.
What a SPASTIC