Orange is the New Black

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  1. Breathe

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    I think Flaca and Maritza are my favourites. The bloke who did the strip tease is hot!!
     
  2. VoR

    VoR Forever in our hearts #Justice4Barb

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    Finally finished this season. (I'm not good at binging).

    So many plot holes and dropped threads it's actually ridiculous, but it came together at the end.

    * Emmy for Danielle Brooks now please. Sadly the show has probably been on for too long and besides Elizabeth Moss is probably unstoppable this year.

    * Selinis Levya (Gloria Mendoza) also deserves much more recognition. She doesn't get as many big moments but she's consistently wonderful. Rivals Brooks for best actress in the show for me.

    * The black girls were once again great this season. I really like Allison (the muslim girl) as an addition to the group. The scene at the end with her headscarf removed was nicely underplayed by this show's standards, but still powerful.

    * That said - controversial statement - but I'm kind of over Suzanne. It felt like they made her too cartoonish this season.

    * I did not know what to make of the Piscatella plotline at all, especially when it randomly turned into a completely different show in the 2 episodes when he was loose in the prison. They never sufficiently justified his hatred of women generally or Red specifically for that plot to land, and his final quasi-redemption(?) felt really unearned. That whole story felt by far to be the least consistently written.

    * Probably just because it was 3am, but I teared up when Flaritza got separated. That said, as fun as they were this season, it felt weird that Maritza would have zero connection to the dead guard plot given she was his prime target in season four.

    * I love the meth heads.
     
  3. Marilyn

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    I'm bored of Suzanne too. I don't know if it's Uzo or the writing but she has become so one-note. The impact of her character would have been much greater if she had been around for maybe the first two seasons and then written out - of course, I doubt any show would be brave enough to do that to their breakout character
     
  4. Breathe

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    I found the meth heads too annoying this year, although I have liked them in previous seasons.
     
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  5. Ellie

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    I agree. It's also what made Poussey's death all the more tragic. She was such a great character you could always root for and it never got tired.
     
  6. Sheena

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    I'm only on the episode with the talent show ( :manson: ) and I'm struggling again like I was with Series 3. It's just so fucking STUPID...
     
  7. RaspberrySwirl

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    It gets better when it suddenly turns into a scary movie.
     
  8. Breathe

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    I rewatched the last episode this morning.. I really think it's one of my favourite hours of TV I've ever seen.
     
  9. Steptacular

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    I fucking LOVE this show. What a season - definitely the joint-strongest with season 2.

    For such a large ensemble of main characters, they juggle it so well and I don't think I've ever cared so much collectively about a cast before. When they stood in the pool at the end and the doors blew off I honestly could've cried.
     
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    YES. Even when he had the shits I still wasn't put off.
     
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    Flaritza becoming YT stars and getting fans was one of my highlights too. Fucking loved Mendoza and Taystee this season, both incredible.
     
  12. Dark Carnival

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    I finished this during the weekend. While I still enjoyed it, it doesn't come close to season 4. Red only got interesting towards the end. Piper was so unnecessary. The talent show was :manson:. This was Taystee's season and she was really good throughout. I also like the beauty vlogger girls.
     
  13. Suedey

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    Worst season so far. Only picked up once Piscatella got in and it all went dark and his back story kicked in etc.

    They completely ruined Red this season as well.
     
  14. RaspberrySwirl

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    But did I somehow miss it or was Pisca's back story never really explained?
     
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    Dark Carnival Missss Vaaaaaanjie

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    Didn't they?!

    Piscatella coming in is the only moment I got emotionally invested.
     
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    Dark Carnival Missss Vaaaaaanjie

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    Well it kinda was, through his love story with the inmate.
     
  17. RaspberrySwirl

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    Yes, but I thought it would end up with his lover being a liar or something, hence Piscatella's attitude towards all inmates.
     
  18. Suedey

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    Like 99% of American shows, they've gone for at least one season too long. And now it's been renewed for two more FFS!! I'd much rather it just moved on to following the life of some of them when they go back into the real world and see how they get rehabilitated or if they end up back in the slammer than Taystee's crusade or Piper/Alex's cringey proposal.

    I did enjoy Fig and Capoto's COITUS INTERRUPTUS moment though :D
     
  19. Breathe

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    For the whole of series 4 I thought that Suzanne's friend Maureen & Jennifer Digori were the same person!!
     
  20. Sheena

    Sheena MAKE IT QUICK, LUCILLE!

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    The whole riot season was as ridiculous as Norma's TOAST moment. So on the verge of jacking it in now- it's just REALLY fucking STUPID, the characters are no longer even remotely based in reality and I fucking DETEST Piper and Alex, especially the latter. Awful.

    The bringing back of Fig and her plastic SNARL was, however, INSPIRED and might just keep me hanging on.
     
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  21. RaspberrySwirl

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    See Sharla would never make such a mistake. But that is a very Sharla-esque post.
     
  22. Ag

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    OMG

     
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    When is the new season? It's normally June time
     
  24. Sheena

    Sheena MAKE IT QUICK, LUCILLE!

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    July 27th
     
  25. Ellie

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    3 episodes in and by God, I really don’t give a shit where Alex is. Shut the fuck up, Piper.
     
  26. SDF

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    I’ve been a bit of a house cat this weekend and binged watched it. I’ve got one episode to go but it’s definitely lacking in the laughs.

    Taystee does have a proper moment in one of the later episodes which is :(. But overall I’m disappointed and the majority of the new characters are guff.
     
  27. POP!

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    I thought the same. ANd I had more time for that two than most.
     
  28. Ag

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    I'm really enjoying the new series.
     
  29. Dark Carnival

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    First episode and this is almost as depressing as The Handmaid's Tale now.

    I really need to find happier series.
     
  30. VoR

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    Is it just me, or was the acting in the Freida flashbacks in episode 3 shockingly poor?
     
  31. Ellie

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    Well the whole Carol and Barb story was pretty great, especially their flashbacks. Just about finishing off the series now. I wish we’d seen more of them.
     
  32. Beverley

    Beverley I Don't Wanna Change A THI-ING

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    I'm not very far into the new series, maybe around ep 5, but I have to say I found the first three really difficult watching. I think with them coming out at a time when the world is so awful and we're continuing to uncover the extent of that, the first three episodes were just BLEAK. It's hard dealing with the fact that every prison guard is basically a villain. Though the last season got weird and stupid at the end, I appreciated the levity that the riot brought - I think it sort of needed that kind of absurdity to deal with the pain of losing Poussey at the end of Season 4 and watching Taystee try and get justice for her. But I think I was the only one.

    Badison was a BAD IDEA. Cannot stand her.
     
  33. VoR

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    Yeah, I get that the abusive nature of the prison system is vital to the show, but it feels like ever since Pornstache in Season 1 they've just kept replacing one cartoonishly villainous guard with another.

    Also, with Maureen dying offscreen (weird choice), how many people has Susanne now 'accidentally' had a hand in killing? I'm only four episodes in so forgive me if it becomes a plot point later, but is nobody investigating that murder?
     
  34. Ellie

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    Why was Blanca getting an early release? Piper and Sophia, fine that makes sense, but Blanca was in for worse than some others. Just how much time had she served? Surely the decision would have had to go through a parole committee. Shouldn’t Lorna have been higher up that list?
     
  35. SDF

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    Badison is seriously one of the most annoying characters the show has ever had

    @Ellie -
    I thought Blanca was being moved to an immigration detention centre. She was probably bumped up the list so Polycon could make money off her as part of the new immigration centre venture they unveiled.
     
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  36. VoR

    VoR Forever in our hearts #Justice4Barb

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    Well, that was all very underwhelming.
     
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    I quite liked the ending! Not the season as a whole though.
     
  38. VoR

    VoR Forever in our hearts #Justice4Barb

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    OK general season thoughts.

    While it wasn't as actively dreadful as the season where Piper started a tampon racket and had a fling with Ruby Rose, or whatever that utter nonsense was, I thought this was easily one of the weakest runs so far. The writing felt really sloppy and inconsistent, very few of the new faces particularly landed and the whole thing was just... well... BORING.

    Carol and Barb were pretty rubbish big bads in the end. The concept was vaguely intriguing, and I found Mackenzie Phillips' performance quite interesting as Barb, but they were both really under-written and the whole conflict built up to a really underwhelming finish. Two middle-aged women we barely care about shanking each other to death offscreen over a stolen anecdote from 30(?) years prior was hardly Madame Rosa mowing down Vee in the drama stakes.

    Speaking of, how old were they supposed to be? The flashbacks were apparently set in the 80s but they both looked like they were in their late 50s at the youngest. I know Prison life is rough but seriously...

    I did think the Debbie murder was very creepy and effective, even though the show made no real effort to justify why it happened. They were total cartoon villains.

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    It's actually laughable how ill-served Sophia has been since season 1. I guess Laverne Cox's availability must have played a huge part, but the way she randomly popped up in, like, 3 scenes, then got shrugged out of the show with was ridiculous. At least she got a happy ending I guess. (Assuming she won't be back)

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    All the new guards were just ridiculously cartoon villains/monsters. I don't expect them to be the sympathetic characters but at least give them a bit of NUANCE.

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    Alieda has always been abrasive but Jesus Christ she was a cunt this season. They also really need to just kill Daya off, she's the absolute worst in terms of bad writing and generally being a dead weight in the cast.

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    I suppose Red was due an off-season as she's been essentially the second/third lead throughout, but she was really sidelined this season. I found the whole plotting vengeance on Freida plotline really un-rewarding.

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    Poor Taystee :( But why on earth did they frame it all through fucking Caputo and Fig's love story? Again, guessing Danielle Brooks had limited availability given she barely interacted with anybody else in the main cast, but surely they could have found a better way around it? I did enjoy Linda from Purchasing's WIG, however. :disco:

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    I didn't totally hate Badison, I thought she was the most fleshed out of the new characters, but 'Daddy' was fucking shite and nobody else bar the fabulous Nigerian woman even registered. More of HER though, please.

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    What the fuck was going on with the whole 'Maria's mystery assailant' plotline and WHOOPS, random unimportant side character confesses she just did it for the LOLZ?!?! Once again, a character for whom they seem to have totally run out of ideas.

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    I will never, ever give a shit about Piper and Alex's love story. Glad they finally released Piper because her story really ran out of road a good 3 seasons ago. Alex has the potential to be better if she actually gets something to do.

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    On the whole 5/10 and I hope the next season is the last, they're really running out of decent stories to tell.
     
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    Oh god the Blanca thing got me the most. How cruel :(
     
  40. Mats

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    please tell me this was the last season. the writing was a CRIMINAL OFFENSE!

    I second VoR. Piper needs to choke on a vegan, gluten free pretzel and Alex needs to turn super villain
     

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