Scottish Independence Debate

Discussion in 'Current Affairs & Debate' started by SDF, Feb 23, 2013.

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Independence?

Poll closed Sep 18, 2014.
  1. I am Scottish - YES

    4.3%
  2. I am Scottish - NO

    12.9%
  3. I am Scottish - DON'T KNOW

    1.4%
  4. I am British (not Scottish) - YES

    7.1%
  5. I am British (not Scottish) - NO

    44.3%
  6. I am British (not Scottish) - DON'T KNOW

    8.6%
  7. I am not British - YES

    2.9%
  8. I am not British - NO

    5.7%
  9. I am not British - DON'T KNOW

    12.9%
  1. Dark Carnival

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    UQE arriving to the parliament.

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    (I'm obviously Michelle :()
     
  2. Loufoque

    Loufoque BATTLE FOR YOUR LIFE

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    Finally a reason for me to say YAAAAAAAAAAAAS in this thread :disco:
     
  3. Lucille

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    Where does one even BEGIN with this.

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  4. Loufoque

    Loufoque BATTLE FOR YOUR LIFE

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    :D

    Nothing like a REDUCTIVE meme to make a totally cack-handed point.

    Perhaps the poorest Yes voters who so cherish their benefits would be happy living like SLAVES as they would be in Dubai!
     
  5. Penelope

    Penelope SMIRKING LESBIAN MOON

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  6. Loufoque

    Loufoque BATTLE FOR YOUR LIFE

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    Although, it does make a good point: why has the devolved Scottish parliament not built fabulous towers designed by Zaha Hadid and Norman Foster in Easterhouse?
     
  7. Madison

    Madison Everything goes up by six

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    Does Dubai even have oil?
     
  8. Loufoque

    Loufoque BATTLE FOR YOUR LIFE

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    It's kind of sad to me that some people have fallen hook line and sinker for a "hope" message which has given them the false promise of being moved at the tax payer's expense into a luxury Richard Rogers mixed-use with a maid.
     
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  9. Dark Carnival

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    Not as much as Abu Dhabi but yes.
     
  10. Dark Carnival

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    Though why are these memes ALWAYS done in PAINT?
     
  11. Loufoque

    Loufoque BATTLE FOR YOUR LIFE

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    Do you expect someone quite so retarded to be au fait with Photoshop and Illustrator, chérie?
     
  12. PercyPig

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    I started reading it as "Over the Scotland More Abu Dhabi" :shy:
     
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    I'm not 100% how successful this has been for Scottish tourism board as a promotional activity. The Scotland I saw on the tourist trail last year was beautiful, charming, dripping with heritage and full of soul. The Scotland I see on the TV is full of absolute cunts. On both sides.

    This kind of shit brings out the worst in people. It's a bizarre exercise to observe from England and slightly embarrassing.
     
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    [​IMG] :disco:
     
  15. Tetris-Rock

    Tetris-Rock one of those "they/thems"

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    I agree, although it's very badly reported UK-wide and without any real context. The campaign trail isn't really representative of Scotland as a whole either... you know that having been up here.
     
  16. Loufoque

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    RS totally would.
     
  17. Loufoque

    Loufoque BATTLE FOR YOUR LIFE

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    Is it being badly reported? I think there's a fair bit of balance. The Yes camp keep telling us it is badly reported, but this isn't Russia. The press doesn't just invent things that didn't happen.
     
  18. octophone

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    Whilst there's some truth in this, the media will only report something juicy and therefore, aren't interested in a bunch of normal-looking people in jumpers handing out leaflets but will report on a smaller number shouting themselves raw in self-induced rage.

    We experience similar thoughts about England whenever there's a football tournament. Or watching any reality TV show.
     
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    The way it's being reported you can virtually see someone dying and then HELL will break loose if NO wins.
     
  20. octophone

    octophone The Electrocutioner

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    I'm more concerned about how the Union Flag waving elements would react to a Yes actually.
     
  21. Ag

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    Again the way it's being reported, something like this...

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  22. Tetris-Rock

    Tetris-Rock one of those "they/thems"

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    I mean, discussed by London-based journalists discussing it poorly in columns and the like. Krishnan Guru Murthy was saying as much the other day on Twitter.

    "Also have to say reading some of the normal London media crowd is shocking how little understanding there can be of a place 1 hour away"
    https://twitter.com/krishgm/status/511246511385370625

    I think Octy refers more to those who would still sing crude songs about Irish hunger strikers at football matches, had it not been banned.
     
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  23. octophone

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    I was half-expecting the Royals to off Philip for a sympathy vote. If there had been any more than 1 poll suggesting a Yes win, they probably would have.
     
  24. Loufoque

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    So because Krishnan says it, it's true? :D
     
  25. Ag

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    They still have a few hours.
     
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    Why would the Scottish sympathize Philip?
     
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    Will the Union Jack have to change if yes wins?
     
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    It wouldn't HAVE to, it would just mean the cultural origin of the blue bit wouldn't be applicable anymore.
     
  29. octophone

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    Because he's an unapologetic racist who thinks he's hilarious. The connection should be obvious.
     
  30. Loufoque

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    There need to be referenda on several issues in the event of a yes vote:

    1) Currency union
    2) Flag
    3) Border control

    Now THAT's democracy :disco:
     
  31. octophone

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    Change the blue bits to green, get the Welsh in.
     
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    Given all the grotesque alternate designs that have come out since it first became a prospect, I could live with this.

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  33. Euphoria

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    That's better than the current one.
     
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    Although I do have a slight penchant for this horror :disco:

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    And this one's FABULOUS although probably better for a Commonwealth flag.

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  35. Tetris-Rock

    Tetris-Rock one of those "they/thems"

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    No, he's one of many with the same opinion including myself. I only mentioned him because he himself is a London-based journalist.
     
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    May 2015. The narrow No vote is a memory. Labour win the General Election but with the most slender of majorities, just 11 seats. Scotland returned 36 of them. England start campaigning for Scottish Independence.
     
  37. Loufoque

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    That still doesn't prove that the coverage has been biased... "because some people say it has"
     
  38. Loufoque

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    I LOVE IT :D
     
  39. Penelope

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    *pedantic* A majority despite LOSING Scottish seats? *pedantic*

    (I can see there being rumbles along those lines in that event though yeah)
     
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    A fragmentation of the left wing vote is an inevitable consequence of all this, whatever happens tomorrow. A lot of people feeling very betrayed at Labour's attitude; can those people be turned round to vote Labour again for Westminster?
     

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