Sonic The Hedgehog 4

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  1. MAMA

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    Oh and the MUSIC. SWEET LORD ABOVE. There are some good tunes but they are forgotten after being aurally raped by continuous midi clash trash.

    FUCK YOU JESUS.
     
  2. Slave

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    It's really not THAT bad!
     
  3. MAMA

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    This game has no place being called Sonic 4. It should be called Sonic Rush: Again.

    It just feels cheap and unpolished. The less said about the gameplay the better, I don't find it enjoyable when Sonic just stops in mid-air and drops to the ground. Or when Sonic slides across the ground while "building momentum" (what a joke) because he is poorly animated.

    Or how the game is absolutely reliant on the homing attack, which would be okay had it not been nerfed.

    Or how the visuals are absolutely charmless.

    I'm just having the inital flip-out, I will probably post more sensible impressions after a few run-throughs.. but still..
     
  4. PercyPig

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    I got the demo off Xbox and I do think it’s quite shit.

    I’m starting to wonder if it’s just Sonic in general that is crap. All the elements are there but it just doesn’t PLAY. The screen is too zoomed in so you can’t see what’s before you, it’s the same process of dying just as you’re getting going.

    I’ve got too agree with MAMA about charmless visuals. I know they don’t want to take away the “essence” of Sonic. But why not have beautiful backgrounds at least and keep the foreground the same. You’ve got the power there but it doesn’t seem like they can be bothered using any of that. And the physics are shit. It’s just SHIT.
     
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  5. COB

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    I really think it was a mistake to keep the 3D Sonic 'look' - it just looks like they haven't been bothered and tried to reuse old art assets and character models where possible. Imagine the STATEMENT they could've made with a bold, redesigned 2D Sonic game featuring a similar style to something like Alien Hominid or Castle Crashers (for example). It just feels like there's no actual artistry to the game, which is something the Mega Drive games had in spades :(
     
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    Kind of reminds me of playing Sonic
     
  7. Slave

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    Yes, it would have been "oh look, they're fucking about with Sonic, AGAIN". I think Sega had painted themselves into a corner. I accept there's a massive jump between Sonic 3 and Sonic 4 in terms of design and physics. But I think it's the 16 year gap that amplifies it. It's a no-win situation, update the series, retain classic design and controls, appeal to old fans, appeal to new fans more familiar with the new character design, create a homage, create a new game, etc.
     
  8. COB

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    Well that's true, but they'd got into the rut a long time ago and using the SAME design style that's associated with the 'lean years' for what should be a big relaunch just seems weird and like they couldn't give a toss (to me, at least). I know you can't please everybody, but surely if there was a time to refresh the design and try a new visual approach it should be for the first numbered 2D game in 16 years? Plus they could've kept the current style for new 3D games, which would keep those fans happy :)
     
  9. PercyPig

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    Nintendo managed to jump back to 2D platforming with pretty much universal praise.
     
  10. MAMA

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    Played through it twice now and am aiming for 200/200. The game is alright when it works... other than that I stand by my previous posts.

    They should have just named Sonic Colors "Sonic 4" because that looks like a far better game.
     
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    I went looking for a bit more information about this, and apparently a demo of it is out next week :o I thought it was just a mock-up like the other video. Info from this forum, which also has some quite fun-sounding hacks of the older Sonic games. I've not tried any yet, but the ones where they've made Amy the main character actually sound like they play totally differently from the originals :o There's also a wonderful sarky version of Sonic 2 that's been given Sonic 4 physics and has those shitty speed booster things everywhere :D
     
  12. MAMA

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    Man, I am looking forward to playing that!
     
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    The demo is out, downloading now.. more excited than I was about Sonic 4 :basil:
     
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    So am I now - weirdly Firefox isn't telling me how big the file is going to be, so I'm not sure how long it'll take :o
     
  15. MAMA

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    It's just under 100MB.

    And it's fucking amazing, to think that only 1 guy made this in a few months. Unfortunately, he is Spanish LULZ PEEKABOO!!!!!!!!1111

    Physics are almost identical to the original games and the level design is pretty damn good. The visuals are stunning.. can get a little busy at times but just amazing.

    I love it. I would pay double the Sonic 4 asking price for a full game. Sega should be fucking embarrassed.

    Edit: He is Greek! Same diff.

    I see Sonic Retro keeps grinding to a halt due to the traffic!
     
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  16. COB

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    Oh my GOD that really is fantastic! I think there's a good chance of Sega issuing a cease and desist letter to this guy (particularly since his work rather SHOWS THEM UP), but at least he managed to get a demo out before that. If he's not able to continue developing this it'd be great if he could leak the code or a level editor online - you just KNOW the loons would have all the Mega Drive games recreated perfectly within 24 hours given half a chance :disco:
     
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    It's glitchy ass HELL. Even on the lowest res setting, it's jumpy as FUCK. Good effort though.
     
  18. MAMA

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    Glitchy? Jumpy?

    Smooth as butter on this end. So good.
     
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    Spain > Sweden
     
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    I'm a little behind but I think of all the comments in this thread THIS is closest to my feelings. I was going to call Childline because this game is RAPING my childhood memories :evil:

    Haven't got much new to add, the physics are horrible, the gameplay is boring *gets flung around at 100mph looking impassive*. I've done the first two stages now and the only vaguely interesting thing
    I've seem is the spinning card thing in Casino 2.

    You'd have a harder time getting sweets from a paedo than getting the frankly insulting number of extra lives they throw at you.

    I'd say it was like a bad fanmade sequel, but it seems the fans are the only ones capable of making a decent Sonic game this century.
     
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    I haven't played it since - then again, it's only got a VERY short shelf-life as the first episode of the game. I've somewhat adjusted to the physics - they're exactly the same in the 2D sections of 'Sonic Colours' on the Wii which is irritating at points but I guess you DO get used to it (though it somehow seems more acceptable in a game that isn't supposed to be a direct sequel to the "classics").

    Nevermind, Metal Sonic is back for the next episode. And possibly Tails.
     
  22. PercyPig

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    IT WAS ALWAYS SHIT
     
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    I am HATING on this still, I've made it through to the 2nd stage of the Mad Gear zone. It's just all WRONG, there just aren't any new ideas at all, and the sprites look like they are from Sonic CD or something.

    The 2nd Labyrinth zone was FAR too long too (the one with the torches), I finished that level on 9:59:62 :D :disco:
     
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    I don't know what it IS about this game, but the piece of shit last level, and the wankily unachievable achievements have left me SHAKING with rage


    FUCK YOU SONIC TEAM, I HOPE YOU COLLECTIVELY FALL ON A SPIKE
     
  25. Slave

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    Which last level? As in the final boss, aka the first four boss fights all over again?
     
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    I kind of love how much effort Sonic Team put into this game - late last year, one of the developers was asked on the progress of Episode 2 and said something along the lines of "the story's been written but nothing else" :D
     
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    I hope they keep it that way!

    Does that mean episode 1 had a story?
     
  28. Slave

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    Episode 1 was a "prologue"...whether intentional or not, I don't think it's now supposed to be perceived as the next stage in the game, more of a recap...which doesn't really reflect ANYTHING that happened before.
     
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    Like a "Previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer" recounted by my friend who gets things in the wrong order to my intense frustration
     
  30. Slave

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    It's just Sonic The Hedgehog, the time has long since passed when he was worth getting frustrated about. It was around the time they changed the design style which I wish they'd change back and just admit it doesn't work.
     
  31. MAMA

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    Unfortunately it will be a spike made out of money because dickheads keep going back for more like battered housewives.

    Dickheads like us :(
     
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    Have any sales figures for the game ever been confirmed?
     
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    No they haven't, which leads me to believe that it didn't meet expectations.
     
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    It really is moving at a SNAIL'S PACE this bloody game.
     
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    *contrived joke about it being as fast as the action*
     
  37. COB

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    I'd forgotten about the MAMA/Peekaboo thing. I assume they're happily SHACKED UP together these days :D

    Anyway, I finally bought this for £3 for my phone and giving it a proper play, and I'm actually rather enjoying it :o I hated the iPhone version I tried before, but it's totally different without rubbish onscreen controls.
     

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