The USA: The Trump Years

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  1. jivafox

    jivafox chalamet & chill

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    It’s all fucked for a very long time let’s be honest.
     
  2. dUb

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    I hope you’re right Richard Bacon

     
  3. ZenGiraffe

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    Yeah. I think this is actually quite short sighted by the Republicans. If they had taken the hit and let Biden replace Ginsberg should he win, court packing probably wouldn't be being as seriously discussed as it is now. But they've created enough of a reason for court packing to be within the Overton window now.
     
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    They just want Obamacare dead. It's been their obsessive mission since it was implemented, and with this they're very likely to get it.
     
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    Melania fucking wishes she was as iconic.
     
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  6. RaspberrySwirl

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    What does court packing mean?
     
  7. Jark

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    Using their majority in the House and Senate to add more seats to the Supreme Court and in this case making them dems to prevent a 6-3 imbalance with every ruling going the Republicans' way
     
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    I don’t understand how the process for appointing such a key role that’s meant for life can be so short.
     
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  9. RaspberrySwirl

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    Oh I had no idea this was possible. Going to hurt even more then if they don’t win both the House and Senate. :(
     
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  10. Win_the_game

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    I find it bizarre that court appointments are made by the President. Surely government and the judiciary should be entirely separate in a democracy.

    Then again, the US is hardly a shining democracy.
     
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  11. RaspberrySwirl

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    Exactly this, but I’m not sure how unusual this is in other democratic republics.
     
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    How are the Supreme Court able to overturn Medicare? I’m confused by that unless it is deemed to be illegal or unconstitutional? What warped argument have they come up with to make that the case?
     
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    Other options include reducing the size of the supreme court, kicking out people already in it, then making it bigger again to create new vacancies, or creating term limits to ensure that a president always gets to make e.g. 2 picks per term.

    The problem is, once something is done, then the other side will probably escalate next time they are in power. So long-term they'll need to be looking at something like a constitutional amendment to stabilize it.
     
  14. dmlaw

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    You'd need a two thirds majority in both the House and the Senate to get a constitutional amendment through and, without that, the existing Trump Supreme Court could strike down anything else as unconstitutional. Just having some of the existing justices murdered would still work though.
     
  15. Ag

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    Name a more hateful duo of cunts... I'll wait
     
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    "one of the most powerful men in Europe" :laugh: :rofl: :emoji_joy::emoji_joy: :emoji_joy: oh god :emoji_sob:
     
  18. RaspberrySwirl

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    We need a most hated politician rate.
     
  19. VoR

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    Nigel Farage isn't a politician.
     
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    Apparently Piers Morgan and Katie Hopkins have also been flown over to campaign for Trump.
     
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    I thought US conservatives hated Piers Morgan because he supports gun control? GOOD LUCK WITH THAT DON
     
  22. RaspberrySwirl

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    You mean because he’s retired?
     
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    I thought Piers had fallen out with him?
     
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    I love how Piers will have a rant about Trump on TV for social media points and ratings but when it counts he defaults to looking after his old mates. God bless the old guard and democracy's inability to ever get rid of them.
     
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    He’s failed to be elected into Parliament 7 times.

    Losing once to a man dressed as a dolphin.
     
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    Would it be wrong to hope all 3 catch COVID from the flight?
     
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    So then what does Nigel Farage actually do? How does he have so much influence over Parliament? Is he just really wealthy?
     
  28. RaspberrySwirl

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    Right, but he was after all in the EU Parliament, no?
     
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    He does not have any influence over Parliament. He just likes to think he does. Which is why it's so amusing that Trump has been hoodwinked by him.
     
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    I'd disagree with that actually. The Conservative party has swung right to stop him bleeding their base. I doubt Cameron would have felt it necessary to have a referendum at all without him being all over the the media.
     
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    A plane crash wouldn't be too much to ask for. 2020 owes us that much at least.

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    the kid is smart :disco:

     
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  33. Pingu

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    Isn’t it MUCH more likely that Piers Morgan has flown over to cover to broadcast GMB from Washington like they did 4 years ago...?
     
  34. VoR

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    Question - clearly this is going to drag on for a while. Shall we keep the chat here and rename the topic, or launch a new thread for the lame duck months? (I.e. now until Biden is sworn in)
     
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    I'd even just revert back to the Trump Years thread
     
  36. Ag

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    Leave this topic. I reckon a transition period topic would be suitable.
     
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