The Vinyl Resurgence

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  1. Edward

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    What I want to know is WHAT HAVE YOU ALL DONE WITH YOUR EXISTING CDs?

    This is a massive dilemma for me. I feel like a dinosaur for hanging on to them.
     
  2. Edward

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    Bear in mind I have over 300 albums currently attracting dust.
     
  3. Zu-Klara

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    I’d keep them. I threw everything onto iTunes a while ago and put my CDs in the cupboard but actually I find the effort of having to turn the laptop on - IKR, phew, bit tired now - to listen to music quite jarring so have increasingly taken to poking round the cupboard for a CD, but then I tend to buy new things on CD anyway (where available; if not, WAV) rather than paying money for some shitty 256 AAC
     
  4. octophone

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    I've kept them. I'm fast running out of space so a clear out is in order but I'd quite like to do it in the name of art.
     
  5. Kalabaliken

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    It was announced that vinyl saw an increase of just 1.6% to 4.2 million sales in 2018. With HMV going later this year, is the bubble about to burst on vinyl? I had a feeling it was going to be a bit of a passing fad. It's just TOO expensive - who the fuck is going to pay £30 for Abba Gold for example?
     
  6. Sheena

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    The price point is beginning to drop, which will help. I noticed recent new releases were more often around the £17 mark than the £20+ it has been...
     
  7. octophone

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    An additional concern is Record Store Day having conclusively jumped the shark in the last two years with all sorts of overpriced rubbish sitting in the stores long after the event. Sure, there's always the speedy sellers but the majors have brought in a glut of useless tat, LPs on coloured vinyl at £35 when you can score a s/h original at EX+ or better for £10-15.
     
  8. lolly

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    Yes, the bubble is bursting all right - growth is stalling and it's still considerably smaller than CDs (which continue to plummet) and paid downloads. Never mind the fact that with supermarkets moving away from music and HMV looking likely to go, where is it going to be sold?

    I think it will continue, but in a niche way.
     
  9. Sheena

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    This is an issue, for sure. The ridiculous "Coloured Vinyl" market is already pissing me off. Not so much a first issue coloured vinyl (example- all the Bananarama ones recently- no interest to me, but ok), but when you get albums that keep getting reissued in multiple formats/ colours etc. just to fleece collectors. It's the same old story- the majors can't help themselves, trying to rinse the industry dry. The Michael Jackson releases recently were ridiculously priced.

    And yes, RSD. Again, invaded by the majors, I suppose. But utter twaddle and I also can't be fucked going and bothering to elbow my way through the ebayers (well, until Saint Etienne release something else).
     
  10. Sheena

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    Supermarkets are actually introducing vinyl, though...
     
  11. Sheena

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    Tesco started last year, Sainsbury's have upped the ante and have quite a lot in some stores and I read Morrisons were starting early this year.

    Lidl will be next!
     
  12. lolly

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    Tesco and Sainsburys have both recently indicated they are moving out of music. My local branch of Sainsburys has reduced its vinyl offering to under half what it was less than a year ago.
     
  13. SDF

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    It was always going to hit a ceiling as it is so much more expensive than CDs

    I think it will continue, but probably in not such a big way over the next few years

    What’s amazons share of the market? It will surely benefit the most from HMV going
     
  14. Sheena

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    I thought that was just CDs? The one stocking music nearest to me has, as I said, just introduced a much bigger section. Plus, if they weren't bothering with music, why are they still releasing Sainsbury's exclusive stuff?
     
  15. lolly

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    There was an article in music week towards the end of last year. One of them actually explicitly stated they intended moving away from music, the other had had a change of management structure that completely shifted focus away from music. The whole article was about the challenges facing the industry.
     
  16. lolly

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    of the physical market Amazon are second to HMV. I think vinyl particularly benefits from brick and mortar sales, which isn't so much of a problem if you live in a place with alternatives, but less so if you're in smaller towns.
     
  17. octophone

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    I hate buying vinyl over the internet - I got fed up v. fast of bashed covers due to poor packaging. That said, when bricks and mortar let me down on Charli XCX, Amazon did package that very well so maybe they've got better.
     
  18. lolly

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    I've found Amazon are usually good for vinyl. The Universal website sent a 7" in just an oversized cardboard (not even corrugated) envelope before Christmas though. And it was a limited edition that had already sold out, so trying to exchange it wasn't an option.
     
  19. OutSynk

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    BUMP

    The entire Britney discography is slowly (actually not so slowly) being released by Urban Outfitters and I think I need it.
     
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    HMV's current vinyl sale has a lot of blatant overruns - reissue LPs down from the £20 to £23 price range down to between £8 and £13. Is a £10 vinyl LP the new £5 CD?
     
  21. OutSynk

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    The CRASH is IMMINENT.:shock:
     
  22. Sheena

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    They’ve ALWAYS done that, though? I bought myself a new “Parallels Lines” for £7 in a sale about two years ago. It’s nothing NEW.

    Anything GOOD you remember? Not that it matters, given that there isn’t one remotely near me...
     
  23. octophone

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    I nabbed Cure/Banshees side project The Glove for £7.99 (down from a highly ambitious £20.99) and David Sylvian's double LP "Gone To Earth" for £14.99 which was half-price and a good score. They had the 2LP of the last Marc Almond compilation for a tenner which was a bit of a steal but had too much solo guff on it for me to want it. They also had a clutch of those more recent compilations that Demon put together like Alternative 60s/80's and that sort of thing. Other than that, it was pretty much the usual suspects.
     
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    hello, sorry to funky it and not read through the thread first but can anyone recommend a good place to buy well-priced vinyl (other than amazon)?

    i would like to fill a few holes in my collection :ken:
     
  25. OutSynk

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    Juno seems good for some of the stuff I'm interested in but I've never actually ordered from there.
     
  26. octophone

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    Depends what you want/need. Give us a few examples.
     
  27. Suedey

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    I've used eBay and Discogs in the recent past.
     
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  28. ameraal

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    low - double negative
    antony and the johnsons - i am a bird now
    sade - love deluxe
    weyes blood - titanic rising
    fka twigs - lp1
    cjr - emotion

    stuff like that.
     
  29. octophone

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    Quite a few of those are out of print so, yeah, Discogs.
     
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  30. Raining On Me

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    I hope this doesn't come across wanky, but I feel like I've been going through some sort of anti-streaming crisis the last year or so - in the sense that although I love Spotify and Youtube and they will always be used by me a lot (travelling just for starters) it's started to bother me massively that I would go through any of my favourite artist's more recent campaigns and at the end of it, besides having seen them on tour, maybe, I'd physically have NOTHING to show for it. Because like a lot of people I just stopped because I didn't need to own any of it. But you know, I've started to fucking hate that now and I hate how - despite how amazing it is in other ways - streaming makes you lazy and impatient when it comes to albums. But I don't want something that's going to sit on the shelf doing nothing either, it's pointless.

    It also doesn't help that I've moved so many times the last few years and along the way I've had to get rid of a fair few of my CDs and a player that's immediately accessible.

    Anyway long point made short, now we're more settled in our house I've made a conscious effort to reclaim physicals, and actually PLAY them. But only actual favourites because of cost and space and the likelihood of it being used etc. So as well as CDs I've dipped into vinyl for the first time, got a record player etc etc - I'm aware that makes me seem like a bandwagon jumping tosser, but I don't care, it's not about that - since I'm trying to get back some of the physical side, it made sense to try something new and I really am loving every second of it because it's made music that bit more enjoyable and "special" again, the same even with CDs. The cost of vinyl is absurd, but as with CDs I'll just stick with my favourites unless any decent deals pop up, or second hand obviously.

    I suppose this is stating the obvious really but maybe it's why vinyl seems more prevalent - even if that's all an illusion - because CDs/downloads are dying and vinyl, being so big and cumbersome, is like the ultimate anti-streaming item, a physical defiance. I'm sure that's been mentioned in here though.

    I just feel right now I've made a happy balance between physical and streaming that I never bothered with before because my brain couldn't handle it.
     
  31. Raining On Me

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    Oh and besides that (sorry to go on) I've been all too aware lately how FRAGILE streaming is in the sense that it feels like my entire library (or Spotify itself) could be WIPED at the drop of a hat.

    Or when Gaga suddenly removed "Do What U Want", despite it hardly being abolished from all existence, all I kept thinking was I'm glad I own Artpop on CD.

    I'll still listen to most of my music via streaming, mind. It's more convenient for headphones and different locations, but it felt wrong to lose the other side. It's exactly the same with films and tv shows.
     
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  32. lolly

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    HMV stores 'work miracles' with rapid roll-out of music chain's huge vinyl expansion plan
    by Andre Paine
    August 15th 2019 at 7:00AM
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    HMV has revealed the scale of its nationwide vinyl expansion plans, which are set to be completed this month.

    In the latest issue of Music Week, we look at how this could boost the vinyl market at a time when sales are flat. Despite the annual vinyl bonanza that is Record Store Day, Q2 sales were actually down 1.1% year-on-year (a dip partly caused by Q2 2018’s Arctic Monkeys album).

    The major re-fit of stores will cover 104 branches, with the vast majority completed. Fopp stores, which already stock a wide range of vinyl, are not part of the current makeover.

    “It is a big job and it was an expensive job, stores have worked miracles to get it turned around so quickly,” said HMV head of music John Hirst.

    According to new figures from Kantar, HMV lost some market share in Q2 compared to the prior year, as it adjusted to emerging from administration and new ownership under Doug Putman. But now it’s targeting growth, particularly for vinyl, with both major label and indie catalogue set for a boost.

    At 4,000 titles, the Westfield branch is now the biggest in London for vinyl. The biggest HMVs across the country can stock up to 6,000 titles. The previous average in an HMV branch was 700 titles.

    “We’ve basically completely re-designed our [display units], acknowledging that ultimately they weren’t really fit for purpose if you wanted a really deep vinyl range,” said Hirst. “It had quite a big footprint with quite a low capacity and it was quite restricted about where it could go in store.”

    A deeper vinyl range including more catalogue was a priority for new owner Doug Putman when he took control of HMV earlier this year – as revealed in his Music Week cover story. HMV has already reported a strong Vinyl Week.

    “We were very keen going forward to get vinyl much nearer the front of the store, just to try and increase awareness that we stocked vinyl and had a decent range,” said Hirst. “It’s basically trebled our capacity within the same footprint."

    The move comes as supermarkets are squeezing shelf space for entertainment.

    Putman is CEO of Sunrise Records in Canada, which has aimed to be a community hub with the feel of an indie retailer. It’s something HMV is now emulating.

    “We wanted to try and make the stores look a bit less supermarket-y and re-establish some of those specialist credentials,” said Hirst of the makeover.

    For more on HMV’s revamp, see the latest issue of Music Week – subscribers can read it in full here. To subscribe and never miss a vital music biz story, click here.
     
  33. octophone

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    I have a dreadful fear this is going to fall flat on its arse. It's 2 years too late.
     
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  34. FetchFugly

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    I must admit I've only been to my local recently but the re-fit seems to have consisted of dumping those brown crate things for the vinyl that don't really go with anything front and centre and shuffling everything else about round them. They have cut back a bit on the tech stuff I suppose.
     
  35. Suedey

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    HMV still as out of touch as ever...
     
  36. OutSynk

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    FUCKING Boomkat. Received a record from them today and noticed they have now discounted it 50%.
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