UK Charts/ Midweeks 2019

Discussion in 'Charts' started by Ag, Jan 2, 2019.

  1. lolly

    lolly Rowena? From Kuwait?

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    Oh Mr L has already been SPITTING BILE about that chart!
     
  2. Sheena

    Sheena MAKE IT QUICK, LUCILLE!

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    It passed me by until The Official Chart Company posted it on Twitter this morning. I got REALLY IRRATIONALLY IRATE about it and had to stop looking :D
     
  3. Slave

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    I think something like that is really interesting as a curio.

    I just wish the OCC would stop trying to rewrite history and pretend that the way things are now is the way they’ve always been.
     
  4. Sheena

    Sheena MAKE IT QUICK, LUCILLE!

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    Oh it's a fun curio, but shouldn't be used in the way it is.

    And it's the more IRKSOME devaluation of a million seller that's MOST annoying
     
  5. Devil

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    Agreed.

    They did that list about a year ago listing every million seller (around 300 of them?).
    Now, I get that a lot of the tracks that are popular these days also don't have the chance to be big actual sellers, as the #1 sales figure is around 7-8k per week, so they don't stand a chance.

    But it is simply fucking ridiculous when I saw Shawn Mendes' #6 or whatever single 'Treats You Better' has apparently 'sold' more than 'Wannabe', which was #1 for seven weeks in a high sales period.

    It just cannot be taken seriously. 'Work From Home' the biggest girl band song ever? Come off it.
     
  6. Ag

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    My brain was already leaking at the fact #1 and #11 had swapped positions!
     
  7. lolly

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    Who is this Sam Pender who is midweek #1 album with 29k sold already?
     
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  8. Yvonne Mondle

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    :D FENDER!

    Some non-entity brought to us by the wonder of Spotify streaming and vile playlists which force people to listen to crud until they think they like it, I should imagine :zombie:
     
  9. lolly

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    I don't know if that was autocorrect or lack of interest.

    I'm imagining some dreary Lewis Capaldi tedious shite.
     
  10. Yvonne Mondle

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  11. lolly

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    At least he hasn't got Capaldi's raw dough complexion.
     
  12. Yvonne Mondle

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    No prizes for guessing which one I prefer (if absolutely forced) :side-eye:
     
  13. Rita

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    He won the much coveted Brits Critics Choice award this year I think. I haven’t heard a single song by him.
     
  14. Yvonne Mondle

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    :D
     
  15. FetchFugly

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    I don't mind Sam Fender. :shy:

    He's not really in the Capaldi category, and I quite like the shameless Springsteen cribbing.
     
  16. Ag

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    For the remix of Sam Fenders Hypersonic Missiles is one of my most played this year.

    BANGER
     
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  18. Halli

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    were they selling signed singes at their gigs and does that count?
     
  19. lolly

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    It seems to be on their website. Whether they were selling it at the concerts or whether it would count I'm not sure, but I imagine getting #1 on that chart may not even need sales of four figures these days.
     
  20. Halli

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    Yes, that's what I mean, it would take around the 1k I am guessing.
     
  21. Sheena

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    Concert sales never used to count- I remember Sarah from Saint Etienne telling me that’s why they didn’t have copies of Words and Music (I think, anyway, might have been Home Counties) on sale the week at a gig they did the week it was released.
     
  22. Sheena

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    That’s pushing it!

    I can’t say I saw them at the gig I went to. They had copies of Magne’s new album there signed- but at £35 I didn’t bite, and went to Amazon instead.
     
  23. octophone

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    I can't imagine you'd need 4 figures to top the vinyl singles chart, 3 would do. Even on RSD, there's 500 editions in its top 10.
     
  24. octophone

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    The way 'round it is to run them through your chart registered webstore - I saw a self-releasing indie band do that earlier in the year. It required a card machine and an iPad.
     
  25. Rita

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    I was looking through Spotify earlier, and came across a new album by The Script. It only has 9 tracks? Is that common now? Hardly value for money.
     
  26. lolly

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    Albums seem to be one way or the other over the last few years. Either 8 or 9 tracks or 20 track playlist type affairs. To be honest, I prefer a shorter, more cohesive album.

    I'm not sure value for money means anything these days when hardly anyone buys anything, anyway.
     
  27. Rita

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    Really? It shows you the last time that I paid attention to new album track lists. I think fans are definitely getting short changed if they are waiting on a new album from their favourite artist for them only to churn out 8 or 9 tracks after being away for God knows how long. The only thing that screams to me is that they probably should not have bothered as they must be going through a phase of WRITERS BLOCK.
     
  28. octophone

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    More than ever in music, value is determined by the consumer. The same person who turns their nose-up at a £10 CD will by a £25 double album with a couple of tracks *less* than the CD (this is common in dance/electronic music). People pay £70-80 for box set editions of albums they already own several times over but won't risk £8-£10 on a CD by a new artist even if they like what they've heard so far. Weird times.
     
  29. octophone

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    Personally, I like albums to come in between 35-45 minutes. That's enough time to say your piece without labouring it at any one time. The current Ezra Furman album is 11 songs and is over and out in less than 28 minutes. It's probably my favourite of the year. And the Best Album Ever - "Spirit Of Eden" by Talk Talk - has 6 songs and lasts a smidge over 40 minutes.
     
  30. Rita

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    My memory is of most albums usually coming in between 10-15 tracks.
     
  31. octophone

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    10-12 was normal in the LP era I grew up within - CDs saw things expand out a bit too much and now they're contracting again now that people want more and more vinyl.
     
  32. lolly

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    Yes, I remember 10-12 tracks as well. And OH THE EXCITEMENT at a cassette format bonus track.
     
  33. lolly

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    I think most acts who release albums of 8 or 9 tracks are the kind whose fanbase likes an 'album' as a concept and listen to them as a piece of work. A lot of these longer albums are just playlists, designed in the hope that people will just repeatedly stream a handful of tracks which they latch on to. As we've discussed before, from a chart perspective that's all you need.
     

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