UK Summer 2011 riots

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  1. Rhythmbarbican

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    So far its not been confirmed that it was connected to rioting, three muslim men were run over I believe. That's the last I heard anyway.
     
  2. Kate

    Kate she's for the streets BITCH

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    "HAVE SOME RESPECT" :evil:

    The website live feed has been good though. (apart from distracting me from work all day)
     
  3. funky

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    Hazel Blears:

    "there is a sense that some people don't have the kind of barriers and discipline that people in the past have been brought up with"

    have all politicians been ASLEEP for the past 20 years? Do they realise who fundamentally STUPID they sound?
     
  4. Rhythmbarbican

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    Diane Abbot was on This Morning just now talking to Eamon Holmes and they had quite a heated debate about the use of water cannons and bringing in the army. All the while Hazel Blears was via satellite link from Salford. Needless to say, Diane came off worse.
     
  5. Loufoque

    Loufoque BATTLE FOR YOUR LIFE

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    Diane Abbott is possibly the least impressive speaker I've ever seen. Out of her depth on every level.
     
  6. delirium

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    It's so unfortunate that rioting and looting is a 21st century phenomenon :(
     
  7. Kate

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    The first looter in the dock at Highbury Magistrates Court today was a teacher! Jeez.
     
  8. delirium

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    On the bright side, at least Moopy's post rate should go up.
     
  9. Ellie

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    It's a shame I have to work today. Bow Youth Magistrates Court is really near my flat.
     
  10. OhSnap

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    Are you for real?
    I am in no way condoning what these basic bitches are doing but to say that there are enough jobs to go around (for the people that want them) is TOTALLY ridiculous and misinformed.
    I know a lot of people with degrees who can't even get a job in fucking Primark or McDonald's (my cousin just got her PGCE and has been forced to start claiming jobseekers) for whatever reason.
    It took me two years to find the job that I have now, and even this is only an 18 month contract.
    Before I had this job I was making about £4000.000 a year doing (very) casual work and felt like there was not a shred of hope of even getting a slightly more reliable job at fucking ASDA or Tesco.

    For me, the whole thing lead to deep depression and feeling completely worthless, and the amount of times I considered suicide is ridiculous.

    Now I'm not saying that being in a situation like that should drive you to commit any crime at all, but I can totally relate to their hatred of the government and companies being seemingly unwilling to help people in these communities by training them up; instead they ask for proven experience in fucking data inputting (just one small example of something that almost ANYBODY could be trained to do in less than a day), when for most of the youth, there is no way to get this experience because nobody is offering it.

    Obviously those factors are just small things that add to a person's anger, but they really do begin to frustrate you when you KNOW that you could do almost ALL of the jobs being offered, but you're not considered because the employers use sifting so that they don't have to read too many applications/CVs.

    No matter how angry someone is at the system and the way they're treated in the employment pool, it obviously shouldn't make you even think about participating in this kind of thuggery, but for the small minority of the rioters who are doing it for those reasons, they literally don't have anything to lose because they feel that their life is worthless.

    Before anybody says that I'm providing an excuse, I'm not, because there isn't one, I'm simply vocalising the thoughts of the rioters who think that they have a 'reason' for thir actions.
     
  11. funky

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    all you're talking about is fair and valid ohsnap, but none of it bears any relevance to the people looting shops and spending a night getting pissed and playing cat and mouse with police officers

    there is no excuse for that kind of behaviour in any society, full stop.
     
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    It's TRUE, it's not as EASY as you THINK. And it CAN BE disillusioning. My current bout of unemployment, which should be ending on an as yet undisclosed date, is only ending due to some HARDCORE JOB SEARCHING and an attractive CV. It's so much harder when you're younger.

    Mind you, some of the people being charged are not just generic YOOF. The BBC has been making special issue with pointing out those that have PROPER JOBS and THEREFORE NO EXCUSE WHATSOEVER.
     
  13. Mats

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    in any society?!
     
  14. funky

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    some people just think the world owes them a FAVOUR

    no amount of job offers or scratch card wins will EVER CHANGE THAT
     
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    This may not be the most mature response, but the sight of Nick Clegg being BOOED AND JEERED by citizens on his attempted walkabout with the victims in Birmingham yesterday made me PROUD TO BE BRITISH. :disco:
     
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  17. Kate

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    I might start a new group "MOOPY COMMIE CLUB".
     
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    It's ok Kate, in case you didn't get the memo, "grey" opinions aren't welcome on Moopy anymore. Everything has to be black, white or cwej.
     
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  20. Loufoque

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    I fear that this may have given Britain an even worse case of the Daily Mails
     
  21. funky

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    he then turned round and said he was happily discussing the issues with local people until a group of troublemakers turned up and he sought police advice and got back in the car

    so, apart from a 200 mile round trip PR exercise to Birmingham achieving all of 15 minutes with the locals, we're now calling anyone who doesn't agree with the government's actions on this "trouble makers" ?

    I mean, am I the only one who thinks this whole thing is BEYOND A JOKE?
     
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  23. Mats

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    This is kind of like a social REAL MUSIC vs NOT REAL MUSIC, except I have no idea who is on what side and even what the sides are.

    I guess it's Understanding the Rioters vs the get your broom brigade vs Hang them
     
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    It's rather ironic that barely a week after declaring Moopy doesn't "do" debate anymore, anything more than one sentence is UNWELCOME.

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  27. Loufoque

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    Slave we're FAR TOO LOWBROW these days

    If you're not declaring the woman with a walking stick a QoL and making KNEE JARK REACTIONS one way or the other you're NOT WELCOME!
     
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    I was worried that we already had TOO MANY August QoL's given Nicole Scherzinger, Wendi Deng, Pippa Middleton and Hilary Devey have all taken a BREATH *dies*
     
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    Maybe, but I had to show SOLIDARITY towards Kate and slave for coming up with the KEY POINTS.
     
  31. OhSnap

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    Of course there's no excuse, and there's nothing anybody can do or say to even attempt to legitimise the situation, but my argument was mainly about cwej's statement on apparent opportunities, not the justification of criminal activity.
     
  32. funky

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    :D

    as good as JUMPING THE JARK
     
  33. Madison

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    It's not lowbrow to dislike reading six paragraphs when one sentence could suffice.
     
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    It's unlike Madison to wait three pages before sticking the boot in.
     
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    I like that he TRIED to apply some restraint.
     
  37. Loufoque

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    I rather enjoy a Slave essay. Sometimes MORE is quite literally MORE.
     
  38. Christian

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    Me too.

    Keep em coming!
     
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    I'm just enjoying some RIOT HITS (not featuring the Kaiser Chiefs).

    I am stuck on Panic and Ghost Town. IDEAS PLEASE.
     
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