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  1. funky

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    I don't know whether this should go in here but it's weird putting anything 'normal' in Moopy Moop these days...

    Anyway I read all 500 pages over my holiday and it's probably the best book I've read in about 5 years.

    Has anyone else read it? I can't recommend it enough. You've probably come across the title as the Broadway Musical it's based on has just come over to London, to rave reviews.

    It's basically a prequel to Baum's "The Wonderful Wizard Of Oz", but it's SO not what you'd expect...

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    ***** without even blinking. It's THAT good.
     
  2. delirium

    delirium TOODLES FUCKFACE

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    Spookily enough, I bought this on Saturday. And I would love to go to the theatre to see it. It's just a case of finding a weekend everyone is free!
     
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    I believe some of us are going to see it in London next month.
     
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    Frozen I Play The Streetlife

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    I started it the other night cos we're seeing it in the West End next month. Can't wait to see it on stage, should be fab!
     
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    some reviews that made me buy it:

    USA Today
    "An outstanding work of imagination."

    Kirkus Reviews
    "... [a] magical telling of the land of Oz before and up to the arrival of Dorothy and company.... A captivating, funny, and perceptive look at destiny, personal responsibility, and the not-always-clashing beliefs of faith and magic. Save a place on the shelf between Alice and The Hobbit that spot is well deserved."

    Los Angeles Times
    "It's a staggering feat of wordcraft, made no less so by the fact that its boundaries were set decades ago by somebody else. Maguire's larger triumph here is twofold: First, in Elphaba, he has created (re-created? renovated?) one of the great heroines in fantasy literature: a fiery, passionate, unforgettable and ultimately tragic figure. Second, Wicked is the best fantasy novel of ideas I've read since Mervyn Peake's Gormenghast or Frank Herbert's Dune. Would that all books with this much innate consumer appeal were also this good. And vice versa."

    Independent
    "Gregory Maguire's Wicked falls into a fascinating sub-genre of novels that revisit well-known stories as much in the spirit of criticism as homage. Maguire...makes sense of Baum's whims, creating a credible Oz for grown-ups, with religion, politics, racial tensions, an economy, mythology, humour and sex... As moving and tragic as it is refreshing and scurrilous..."
     
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    Who CARES? Adam Garcia is in the London production :p
     
  7. Frozen

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    YAY! :horny:
     
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    I love fantasy literature ANYWAY, but the way he has taken Baum's OZ and fleshed out an amazing world with current themes (drought, ethnic cleansing, terrorism, war, racism, fascism, sex) with such rich, classic language is unbelievable. Every conversation between characters contains a good five or six quotes worth remembering and the interesting analogies between Oz and Earth are everywhere.

    Above all else it's just an incredible story that completely changes your view of the Witch, especially from the point of view of the original film...
     
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    ah cool, I've been looking for something new to read
     
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    I'm not sure I even want to see the Musical. Well I do, but I'm sure it's NOTHING like the book.

    Musicals are a great SHOW but the problem is they water everything down.... I don't want to see this story watered down.

    Elphaba is one of the best characters I've ever read about.
     
  11. dUb

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    *buys*

    Thanks FUNKY
     
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    I read it a couple of months ago, it was rather good, although rather graphic at points :o Can't wait to see the hsow now next month!
     
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    Can everyone hurry up and read this so we can talk about it before I've moved on to my next FAD
     
  14. delirium

    delirium TOODLES FUCKFACE

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    *skim reads*

    So the witch turns out BAD? :o
     
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    Believe it or not there is a rather SHOCKING TWIST

    And Dorothy is only in it for about 5 pages.... JOY
     
  16. delirium

    delirium TOODLES FUCKFACE

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    Well, I kinda figured it was a 'misunderstood girl goes bad cos everyone's a MEANIE' kinda story.

    I like a good twist though. Actually... that's a lie. Cos after about 30 pages I have to turn to the end of the book and read the end.

    I must not do that. I must not do that.
     
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    the funniest thing is that I do that, but in a way where I do that thing with your eyes where you look real slyly at the page, as if you're trying to hide from yourself the fact that you're cheating by looking ahead
     
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    I'm obsessed by it (the show).

    Will buy the book shortly. There's a "Buy one get one half price" office in WH Smiths!
     
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    lolly Rowena? From Kuwait?

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    The musical concentrates mainly on the Elphaba/Galinda relationship. A lot of the darker themes of the book aren't there, although it is undoubtedly darker than your average West End big number musical.
     
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    You've read it and seen the show?

    What did you think of the book?
     
  21. delirium

    delirium TOODLES FUCKFACE

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    I'm reading 'Never Let Me Go' at the moment and it's MOST annoying because reading the end hasn't worked.

    BAH.
     
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    lolly Rowena? From Kuwait?

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    Loved it, although it was a lot darker and went to places I never imagined.

    I can't help thinking I did it the right way around, seeing the musical first. In the vast majority of cases where I've read the book first, the film or musical suffers.

    I cannot say how much I'm looking forward to seeing the show again. The buzz that's building up in the press is really getting to me know. Heaven knows what it would be like if I lived in London and had the posters everywhere to contend with it.

    I'm quite convinced Idina Menzel will absolutely WOW the audiences. She's only in it until January, though.
     
  23. Shirley

    Shirley BIG-HEARTED BUNNY

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    From the topic title I was anticipating SINITTA :(

    If she doesn't count as HIGH CULTURE I don't know what does
     
  24. Sild

    Sild New balls please

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    Cheating with Ishiguro? May you be SMITED DOWN
     
  25. delirium

    delirium TOODLES FUCKFACE

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    :D

    It's not cheating... I just... need to know what is happening.

    I can't help it.
     
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    how bizarre, I was GIVEN this today and told to read it, so I WILL
     
  27. Gavin

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    Awwwwww. :( You've RUINED it. The last page of 'Never Let Me Go' is one of my favourites in literature. Its all about the moment and the context, and you've gone an RUINED IT, you big bogey! :(
     
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    The hype seems to have hit suddenly. Word of mouth should spread and it'll be everywhere in a month.

    Oh it's everywhere. To the point where you wonder what was talked about in theatrical circles 2 months ago. It's this and Spamelot. Haven't heard a whisper about SOund Of Music, though I'm sure it'll be huge as well. I still haven't seen Mary Poppins yet. And to THINK I don't even do Musicals...
     
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  29. lolly

    lolly Rowena? From Kuwait?

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    Well if you are thinking of going, I really do urge you to go while Idina Menzel is in it.
     
  30. TomLondon

    TomLondon Well TomBrighton these days...

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    seeing the musical tommorrow night.. v excited - not read the book tho - im just about to start rupert everetts Hello Darling Are You Working ?, and then his autobiography..
     
  31. funky

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    I know a Tom in South London...
     
  32. TomLondon

    TomLondon Well TomBrighton these days...

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    There's quite a few of us... :-)
     
  33. delirium

    delirium TOODLES FUCKFACE

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    :D

    Best use of an insult ALL DAY.

    To be honest... I didn't get it (as I didn't understand the moment or context!) so I've pretty much instantly forgotten it.
     
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    Rumour has it no-one actually lives in Lambeth anymore, it's just where you go to catch a train to Kent...
     
  35. TomLondon

    TomLondon Well TomBrighton these days...

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    Rumours are always wrong Funky :-0
     
  36. funky

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    So where are you in Sarf London, Tom? A few of us know the area quite well!
     
  37. Gavin

    Gavin Fuck It I Love You

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    Do you work for CocaCola funky?
     
  38. TomLondon

    TomLondon Well TomBrighton these days...

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    St. Reatham

    :-)
     
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    no matey but I do work in that building... CocaCola is a small part of that whole block. They pay us rent to use that space...
     
  40. funky

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    lived there for 2 years meself... near Streatham Hill station. Not a bad place when you get used to it!
     

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