Discussion in 'Current Affairs & Debate' started by Ogilvy, Mar 13, 2006.
She's my fav classic chick lit author...
it's not really 'chick lit' though is? Just literature written about women by a woman. "Emma" is one of the cleverest books ever, but I prefered reading "Pride and Prejudice"
I just adore Mr Tilney
The inspired Gothic spoof that is Northanger Abbey
P&P is a close second. I still haven't seen the Keira Knightley version...
you should! It's wonderful in EVERY way.
Watch out for a stupid American ending on the DVD though!
I am performing this soon!
Northanger Abbey is good but Pride & Prejudice really is a bit of a masterpiece....
I HATE Northanger fucking Abbey
P&P. Gotta love Mrs. Bennet!
LOL, I think its...I mean books about woman going on and on about men, doing nothing but going to the latest parties and buying new clothes....isnt that chick lit?
Oh yes, Kate! Mr Tilney is such a darling. In modern times, ppl would have think he's gay or something! Another of my fav leading man is Captain Frederick Wentworth ...the name itself is like poem
Jane Austen is overrated
Yes, a lot of her books were quite good from a writer's point of view, but how she has become the most celebrated author of our time in the aftermath of Bridget Jones and some TV miniseries is beyond preposterous. Oh, and proto-feminism my arse - there's no blood, sweat or tears in her brand of "feminism."
I do hope the bitch is grumbling in her grave as we speak. I personally never cared for any of her work, actually.
It's a '4:00 in the morning and the tears are coming and I wanna make it worth the fight' kind of thread.
But what about the Brontë sisters La Suedita? And George Eliot?
you are wrong Suedehead, and gosh I don't know WHERE to START. "Emma" for example is absolutely a feminist novel - look at the main character and how she wholeheartidely derides the path which women of her class were meant to take - and compare this with how Austen shows Charlotte Lucas in the same novel - a woman who by her own admission married because society forced her to, not because she wanted to.
i and everyone else could go on but that's just one example. I can't be arsed right now to go into the whole thing but ONE MORE POINT is that "Emma" is worthy of any praise it gets from a technical standpoint - imagine writing a novel which forces the reader to read it twice through before they can see the whole picture!
I thought this thread was 'Jay Aston' is overrated at first.
I think she's overexposed at the moment, but certainly not overrated. In fact the amount of fluffy reimaginings of her stories is possibly doing her original works a disservice.
If you think she's overrated, try going out for the day to Bath
High Culture fodder indeed.. pity it wasn't
Go into the lesser-known novels and I'm a big fan. Northanger Abbey is fantastic as a Gothic parody
A friend of mine adores her.. she has the complete works.
Mansfield Park is great once you realise you're SUPPOSED to hate the 'heroine'.
Charlotte Lucas is in P&P :p but you are right
Austen quite rightly wrote about what she knew, so you're never going to get any extreme action or gritty hardship. I love her books for their wit and her fantastically detailed characterisation which stays on just the right side of caricature.
Love the Bronte sisters - Wuthering Heights and Jane Eyre are masterpieces.
George Eliot I'm not familiar with apart from Silas Marner which I only read once at 13 for my own interest and loved.
I can't stand her books and like even less the twee period-drama versions that appear on tv. The Bronte sisters are quite fab however.
I must say I WHOLLY AGREE
Never read a PAGE.
My beardy old boss loves the period drama versions of 'Sense & Sensibility', 'Pride & Prejudice' etc He must be on the turn.
Oh, the Bronte sisters were fantastic. Jane has nothing on them.