Discussion in 'Current Affairs & Debate' started by Gavin, May 2, 2006.
I really don' see what is so special about The Catcher in the Rye
Anna Karenina - Leo Tolstoy
The Hunchback of Notre Dame - Victor Hugo
Bleak House - Charles Dickens
Villette - Charlotte Bronte
Saplings - Noel Streatfield (simply because I have a whole lot of respect for what it does)
The Odyssey - Homer
Three Men on a Boat / Three Men on a Bummel - Jerome K Jerome
and maybe The Swish of the Curtain by Pamela Brown for old times' sake.
From the top of my head and in no particular order:
JM Coetzee - Boyhood : Scenes From Provincial Life
Ian McEwan - Atonement
Jeffrey Eugenides - Middlesex
Gavriela Avigoor Rotem - Mozart Wasn't Jewish
Natalia Ginzburg - Valentino*
Jonathan Safran Foer - Everything Is Illuminated
Mikael Niemi - Popular Music from Vittula
Paul Auster - The New York Trilogy*
Don DeLillo - Underworld
Toni Morrison - Beloved
1. Madonna- Sex
Kylie - LA LA LA
I'm with Patrick - A Passage To India is a brilliant, brilliant book. Mrs Moore is one of my favourite literary characters, just perfectly written by Forster. My Top 10 after some pondering.
1) "Jude the Obscure" Thomas Hardy
2) "Stranger in a Strange Land" : Robert Heinlein
3) "Brave New World" Aldous Huxley
4) "Tess of the D'Urbervilles" Thomas Hardy
5) "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" Ken Kesey
The film itself ain't BAD, although it is slightly over-long and is difficult to be captured on film considering there is no linear narrative. But Thandie Newton is fucking BRILLIANT in it. You HAVE to see it for her performance alone!
Oh and White Teeth by Zadie Smith would also be in my All Time List!
Have you seen the film with Kate Winslet?
1. Catch-22 - Joseph Heller
2. Lucky Jim - Kingsley Amis
3. Cold Comfort Farm - Stella Gibbons
4. Jude the Obscure - Thomas Hardy
5. Long Dark Teatime of the Soul - Douglas Adams
6. Wuthering Heights - Emily Bronte
7. Pride and Prejudice - Jane Austen
8. Psmith in the City - PG Wodehouse
9. La Bete Humaine - Emile Zola
10. Wilt - Tom Sharpe
Ergh 5 off the top of my head
The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy - Douglas Adams (The whole 4-part trilogy if that's allowed )
Pride & Prejudice - Jane Austen (I've decided it is my favourite of hers now although it used to be Northanger Abbey)
The Hippopotamus - Stephen Fry
The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time - Mark Haddon (special significance for me blah blah blah)
Flowers In The Attic - Virginia Andrews
rather CLOSE to mine
harper lee, marquez and orwell in my top 5 too, probably wilde too
i loved jane eyre LOADS as well, dangerous liasons was wonderful
probably something by salman rushie too...
i really need to think about it...
Finally enough pondering from me:
1. Kazuo Ishiguro - The Remains of the Day
2. Peter Ackroyd - Hawksmoor
3. E. M. Forster - A Passage to India
4. Nick Hornby - High Fidelity
5. C. S. Lewis - The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe
6. Sue Townsend - Adrian Mole: The Cappuccino Years
7. Kazuo Ishiguro - When We Were Orphans
8. Peter Ackroyd - The Clerkenwell Tales
9. Charles Dickens - A Christmas Carol
10. Kenneth Grahame - The Wind in the Willows
11. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle - The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
12. Ben Elton - Dead Famous
13. Umberto Eco - The Name of the Rose
14. Mary Shelley - Frankenstein
15. Jane Austen - Northanger Abbey
My own personal top 5 novels...
1. Mrs Dalloway - Virginia Woolf
2. The Eyre Affair - Jasper Fforde
3. Dracula - Bram Stoker
4. LOTR - Tolkien
5. Wuthering Heights - Emily Bronte
Lots, but these spring to my mind:
1) Ayn Rand "The Fountainhead"
2) Jerome K Jerome "Three Men in a Boat"
3) Stephen King "The Stand"
4) Robert Louis Stevenson "Dr Jekyl and Mr Hyde"
5) Khaled Hosseini "The Kite Runner"
well, what did you think in the end?
And definitely not the fifth.
Tales of the City - Armistead Maupin
Pride and Prejudice - Jane Austen
Sense and Sensibility - Jane Austen
Jemima J - Jane Green
Godchildren - Nicholas Coleridge
It - Stephen King
Midnight's Children - Salman Rushdie
Moor's Last Sigh - Salman Rushdie
Belinda - Maria Edgeworth
Atomised - Michel Houllebecq
Fear of Flying - Erica Jong
Man, I used to LOVE these. My mum had the whole series (Petals on the Wind ...) and I read them in secret.
Oh, the incest ...
Did you also ever read My Sweet Audrina? Gash but great.
^ I LOVED that book when I was about 14!
1. Wuthering Heights - Emily Bronte
2. 1984 - George Orwell
3. The Handmaid's Tale - Margaret Atwood
4. Frankenstein - Mary Shelley
5. Little Tales Of Misogyny - Patricia Highsmith
No Plath for ameraal? You'd love her! She's my top 'literature' banshee, so to speak..
i've never read anything by plath though i've always meant to
here's a good reason, recommend me something and i'll get it right away after i leave work
the closest i've been (as far as i've heard of plath) is virginia woolf
hasn't anyone read (and liked) rushie?
The Bell Jar - or ariel, poetry collection.
do you mean Rushdie? if you do, see my top 5. if you don't, carry on.
Is that by the same author? Don't think I read any of her others... well I vaguely recall starting on the next one in the FITA series but don't think I finished it.
I forgot Animal Farm in my list.
God I remember reading those Virginia Andrews books when I was about 13/14. Loved "Petals on the wind". Never read "My sweet Audrina" but loved "Heaven" and "Dark Angel"
Virginia Andrews basically wrote the same story each and every time - after she died there was some imposter called 'the new Virginia Andrews' licensed by the family to keep churning them out. But they were rubbish (even looking at the fairly low basis the rest of them were at) and quickly stopped.
I think fondly of them cos I think they were the first books I ever read with sex in them.
Apart from maybe 'Forever' by Judy Blume.
I think mine may have been the VA books or else a trashy Jackie Collins novel. God I was so obviously gay
I'm more of a biographies/factual reader these days.
I really overdosed doing a literature course at Uni and tend to read things from a very academic perspective. I find it difficult to settle down with a novel for a "good read" withtout analysing the writing
Still, off the top of my head...
1. Choderlos de Laclos - "Les Liaisons Dangereuses"
2. Patrick Süskind - "Das Parfum"
3. Brett Easton Ellis - "Less Than Zero"
4. Truman Capote - "In Cold Blood"
5. Kazuo Ishiguro - "Pale View Of Hills"
- Arthur Golden - "Memoirs Of A Geisha"
- "Tales Of The City" series
i'm the same. when i finished my PhD i think i went about six months without picking up a novel. i started to read a lot of Chinese women's autobiographies - started with Wild Swans and worked my way from there.
hey, if you liked Memoirs you might wanna try The Tale of Murasaki by Liza Dalby. oh and i'm going to Gion in December. yay!
I've had my eye on Wild Swans for years and years - I really must get round to it soon. Have you tried her Mao biography?
I'll give Murasaki a go now that you've recommened it - I've seen it but assumed it was just a Geisha knock off. I had a fabulous trip to Japan 2 years ago. I really love the country, looking forward to going back again in the not too distant future!
I have the Mao biography but ashamed to say I'm only about 100 pages into it. Really hard going - fascinating but a very hard read. I got it after I saw her at the Edinburgh Book Festival 2005. She was a very good speaker.
other chinese women's autobiographies you might like -
To the edge of the sky - Anhua Gao
Startling Moon - Liu Hong
Daughter of China - Meihong Xu
Red China Blues - Jan Wong
The Woman Warrior - Maxine Hong Kingston (this is extremely good, collection of autobiographical familial short stories about the Chinese American experience, loosely based on the Mulan myth. I taught it on an autobiography course for 3rd/4th year students and it always went down well)
there's also another geisha book - Geisha by Lesley Downer - which is her contemporary western account of spending time in the geisha world.
have you read any Haruki Murakami?
Thanks for those recommendations! I'm going to give Wild Swans a try as soon as I'm finished with my current book I think. You've confirmed my suspicions on the Mao front though, but I'd still like to give it a crack. It's one of those subjects I just don't know enough about
I haven't read any Haruki Murakami but a quick glance on Wiki shows his influences as Kafka, F Scott Fitzgerald, Capote, Salinger which would put him right up my street, I think - although I have somewhat grown out of Kafka since university Where's the best place to start?
Norwegian Wood I think would be good.
"Such is the exquisite, gossamer construction of Murakami's writing that everything he chooses to describe trembles with symbolic possibility" Steven Poole, Guardian.
For me it was cos "Flowers In The Attic" was the first book to ever make me bawl my eyes out... when the little'un died
Did you know they'd made a film of it? I didn't until recently. Apparently it's a bit shit though.
God, did they? Bet it was hideous made for TV stuff.
Victoria Tennant? oh dear.
5. Wilkie Collins - The Woman in White (a classic novel!)
4. Jeff Abbott - Panic (a new release that I found to be very compelling)
3. Stephen King - The Green Mile (don't watch the film first, damnit!)
2. Mary Shelley - Frankenstein (it's a short book, but in my opinion it set so many trends on so many different levels.)
1. Nick Hornby - High Fidelity (my favourite author, i was stuck for choice but really, this book is way too unique and way too musically correct to not be on this list.)
It's RUBBISH compared to the book. I would say it's worth a watch, but only to see a visual representation of the novel - but you HAVE to read the book first.
I'd put Beloved in my top 5 novels, but I'm not really very good at literature. I wish I knew more or had more TIME to read properly.
So I'd put Toni Morrison - Beloved and George Orwell - Animal Farm (which I find to be a much more intelligent work, despite popular view to the contrary, than 1984) in there, but I don't really know what else I would put in there to be honest...
Ooo that is a GREAT book. I read it at school as an individual study.
The best book I've read in a LOOOOOOONNNNNG time is Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close by Jonathan Safran Foer, who wrote Everything Is Illuminated, which I haven't read actually. Recommended?
ANYWAY, EL&IC is a wonderful book, read it!