Kate
mildly communist
I suppose a shift from far right to just right of centre is still a shift, but forgive me if it’s one I fail to get excited about.
Keir Starmer? The start of a shift to the left? You fucking WHAT? :emoji_skull:
I suppose a shift from far right to just right of centre is still a shift, but forgive me if it’s one I fail to get excited about.
What is this Keith stuff all about ?A FB friend just posted this.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/09/tory-leigh-still-unconvinced-by-labour
How do you even deal with this sort of cunt? Previously Labour but thinks Boris “seems to care”, and doesn’t think Cummings did anything wrong. For FUCK’s sake.
And if the problem is that Labour is now disconnected from the working class, as suggested here, how exactly is SIR KEITH going to turn that around?
It’s a Twitter meme, I’m just trying to be down with the kidsWhat is this Keith stuff all about ?
well he can FUCK RIGHT OFF as well. using the funds for Manchester STAND-OFF with Boris in October for RELENTLESS OPPORTUNISM. always gagging to be on camera. no THANKS.I never thought i’d say this but BURNHAM FOR PM
Really? I thought he was quite good at highlighting Westminster's disgusting mistreatment of anything not London and the South East, and came out of it looking like he was standing up for his constituents, because he was.well he can FUCK RIGHT OFF as well. using the funds for Manchester STAND-OFF with Boris in October for RELENTLESS OPPORTUNISM. always gagging to be on camera. no THANKS.
Really? I thought he was quite good at highlighting Westminster's disgusting mistreatment of anything not London and the South East, and came out of it looking like he was standing up for his constituents, because he was.
I thought he gave the impression of shutting EVERYTHING down, ranting endlessly and trying to extend the whole drama to keep himself in the news. awful man. other northern mayors got a much better deal for their cities by behaving reasonably and engaging in a dialogue. he fucked himself and Manchester over.Really? I thought he was quite good at highlighting Westminster's disgusting mistreatment of anything not London and the South East, and came out of it looking like he was standing up for his constituents, because he was.
Although my racist uncle quite likes him which is rather baffling.Sadiq is NOT TERRIBLY WELL LIKED here in London in my experience.
I don't agree with this at all. The only people acting unreasonably were Johnson and his government, and you need look no further than furlough for proof.I thought he gave the impression of shutting EVERYTHING down, ranting endlessly and trying to extend the whole drama to keep himself in the news. awful man. other northern mayors got a much better deal for their cities by behaving reasonably and engaging in a dialogue. he fucked himself and Manchester over.
He was under the impression negotiations were still underway. The government walked away. Manchester had been under restrictions since THE END OF JULY. With no extra support, Liverpool was put into restrictions much later hence economic impact hadn’t been as badI thought he gave the impression of shutting EVERYTHING down, ranting endlessly and trying to extend the whole drama to keep himself in the news. awful man. other northern mayors got a much better deal for their cities by behaving reasonably and engaging in a dialogue. he fucked himself and Manchester over.
We quite like him in Manchester so he isn’t going anywhere anytime soon (every seat but five in the council are held by Labour too). I got the feeling that he was rightly exposing the sheer cuntery of the government and the fact that they were giving us absolute peanuts before we entered tier 3. Burnham knew full well many of the small businesses in the city (and there’s PLENTY of them) would be even more damaged by another lockdown. I got the sense he actually CARES about the people he represents. Let’s not forget we’ve been under restrictions since JULY and have had next to no support.I thought he gave the impression of shutting EVERYTHING down, ranting endlessly and trying to extend the whole drama to keep himself in the news. awful man. other northern mayors got a much better deal for their cities by behaving reasonably and engaging in a dialogue. he fucked himself and Manchester over.
All of the liberals and socialists in this thread arguing about the various shades of 'being left' is a wonderful metaphor for how populism has risen so easily. How are you supposed to unite against such a one-note movement as xenophobia? The Right don't give a shit how Right they are or aren't, they just vote based on who will stop foreigners moving in next door.
Get it together people. I can't take another 4 years of this shit.
True! Like when the Lib Dems went into coalition with Labour in 2010! Oh wait.That is SUCH a SHIT metaphor
The way I would take it is, the left and centre make up a majority and both oppose genocide, whereas the right always vote in unison, get in power, and get to do whatever genocide they want.
I don't think this is strictly true though. Brexit is only happening because the Tories were split over David Cameron's social progressivism and he needed to throw the right wing a bone.
Theresa May's various attempts at a deal were shot down by her own party. Anna Soubry started a new political party and tanked her own political career in the process over Brexit. And that's without going into the BNP/UKIP/Brexit party issue...
The Tories have their in-fights as well, but they've got a comfortable majority right now.
True! Like when the Lib Dems went into coalition with Labour in 2010! Oh wait.
Brown agreed to resign though, so I'm not sure that's fair.And didn't that go down well! Clegg took the Lib Dems from their strongest position in generations, and almost killed them off.
I blame Brown as much as Clegg in that situation, but Clegg seemed to think that he was bargaining with a more centrist leader in Cameron. Only for him to put into a power a man whose only achievement was to isolate the UK from the continent. Not exactly a LIB DEM WIN.
Erm because Labour outright dismissed the possibility. How much WORSE would the Tories have been without a JUNIOR partner to moderateTrue! Like when the Lib Dems went into coalition with Labour in 2010! Oh wait.
Brown agreed to resign though, so I'm not sure that's fair.
How much WORSE would the Tories have been without a JUNIOR partner to moderate
There was much more back and forth. Labour initially thought the Lib Dems would roll over and do what they wanted. This wasn't the case, and eventually Gordon Brown offered his resignation to secure a coalition. But Clegg claims the numbers still weren't enough and it wouldn't be a functional government so chose Cameron.Did he? That's not how I remember it, but I could be wrong (ie I could have been reading the wrong papers at the time)
I thought Clegg met with Labour, said he'd consider a coalition without Brown, Brown refused to step down, so Clegg went to Cameron. But I'm not saying I'm correct.
The centre fucks the world over but apparently it doesn't want genocide! Weren't 600,000 people in Iraq (a conservative estimate) enough for you?!