UK...NIL POINTS

ButterTart said:
Right, we need a list of acceptable candidates to represent us next year so we can bombard the BBC.

So far I have:
Skin off the Skunk Anansie
Skye off the Morcheeba
Alexandra Burke
Fleur East
Amy MacDonald
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Penelope said:
She has a longstanding position that she'll never do it (or at least, not for years yet), as one of her kids' birthdays always clashes with rehearsals/the contest itself
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I guess she's got too many of them to bring them on stage, Kitchen Disco-style, with her :(
 
I find it interesting how this is turning into rocket science again.

One common denominator with the countries that have done well either with the televote or the jury this year (or in previous years) is that the artist looked pretty confident in what they were doing and also comfortable during the performance as a whole. The UK has missed the mark SO badly on that front in the past few years, let alone the song/genre discussions.
 
How does one go about starting a Twitter storm, please? My campaign to get Skin off the Skunk Anansie needs more traction. I'm happy to create an alternate storm to make this happen:
 
Quite depressing seeing comments about metal bands who've rendered their services to the BBC over the last few years and never got a call back. Shows how determined they've been to shoot for the middle for all this time.
 
This seems to be the first year of the penny truly dropping that perhaps our entries just haven't been good enough for the past forever, than the contest all being politically rigged against us.
I think having such an undeniably GOOD, cool, dynamic and popular winner just makes that argument disintegrate when you compare what Italy were serving (and France, Switzerland, Ukraine and all the rest) in comparison to the UK offered (and Spain and Germany).

Just open it up for an open call to be the UK's entrant next year. Whittle it down to a shortlist of 10 like we used to do and do a televised show. See what weird and wonderful stuff comes through organically.

That or yes, send Skin (who would be a fabulous choice) or Ellie Goulding and give them full creative control.
 
I mean really the on-going Eurovision fiasco should be included in the BBC INVESTIGATIONS. Drag them!
 
I know this will go down like a sack of shit in here but Jessie J.


Or Joss Stone.
 
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaAAaaaA said:
This seems to be the first year of the penny truly dropping that perhaps our entries just haven't been good enough for the past forever, than the contest all being politically rigged against us.
I think having such an undeniably GOOD, cool, dynamic and popular winner just makes that argument disintegrate when you compare what Italy were serving (and France, Switzerland, Ukraine and all the rest) in comparison to the UK offered (and Spain and Germany).

Just open it up for an open call to be the UK's entrant next year. Whittle it down to a shortlist of 10 like we used to do and do a televised show. See what weird and wonderful stuff comes through organically.

That or yes, send Skin (who would be a fabulous choice) or Ellie Goulding and give them full creative control.
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And yet... to be honest, if you look at the original reaction to the song on here, it didn't actually go down that badly with people at Moopy at the start. Not compared to some of our other SHIT.
 
cwej said:
I know this will go down like a sack of shit in here but Jessie J.


Or Joss Stone.
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Little Boots has said she'd do it. I think she would be a great choice of writer for us, not performer.
 
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaAAaaaA said:
This seems to be the first year of the penny truly dropping that perhaps our entries just haven't been good enough for the past forever, than the contest all being politically rigged against us.
I think having such an undeniably GOOD, cool, dynamic and popular winner just makes that argument disintegrate when you compare what Italy were serving (and France, Switzerland, Ukraine and all the rest) in comparison to the UK offered (and Spain and Germany).

Just open it up for an open call to be the UK's entrant next year. Whittle it down to a shortlist of 10 like we used to do and do a televised show. See what weird and wonderful stuff comes through organically.

That or yes, send Skin (who would be a fabulous choice) or Ellie Goulding and give them full creative control.
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Yes for the reason I suspect was the obvious and gaping disparity between Embers and almost EVERY OTHER PERFORMANCE, most the mainstream media seems to finally be on board with the WE SEND SHIT narrative. The Telegraph, Guardian, BBC and even The Snu all seemed to be on the same page.

Maybe the other countries graciously applauding us in defeat, sent the message that EUROPE EXCEPT FOR PEEKABOO DOESN'T HATE US.

My cynical side says NOTHING WILL CHANGE, but THE FANS seem to suddenly have a bit of a voice, so I hope the UK Eurovision team are up for some dialogue.
 
cwej said:
I know this will go down like a sack of shit in here but Jessie J.


Or Joss Stone.
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I'd prefer Joss to Jess but at least you know with a name like that they'll bring performance and have a lot more creative control. I just don't think I could bear Jessie swanning around insincerely complimenting the other singers. And if she got nul, you just KNOW she'd make a point of going nu-n-n-nu-nu-nul-nul at every fucking opportunity.
 
ButterTart said:
I'd prefer Joss to Jess but at least you know with a name like that they'll bring performance and have a lot more creative control. I just don't think I could bear Jessie swanning around insincerely complimenting the other singers. And if she got nul, you just KNOW she'd make a point of going nu-n-n-nu-nu-nul-nul at every fucking opportunity.
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I am actually being serious about Joss after her Masked Singer stint, she really impressed, her vocals are exceptional (better than we've ever had I would say) and if we gave her a reasonable, soulful track, she'd do great with juries, even if not with the public vote. But that would be a start at least...
 
cwej said:
I am actually being serious about Joss after her Masked Singer stint, she really impressed, her vocals are exceptional (better than we've ever had I would say) and if we gave her a reasonable, soulful track, she'd do great with juries, even if not with the public vote. But that would be a start at least...
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I think our short term goal should be to get the juries on-side anyway. Belgium and Portugal did alright out of pretty much being jury-interest only this year, and Lucie offset her disappointing televote result in 2017 by coming top ten with the juries.
 
I don't like Jessie J but let's not forget she's already conquered China, a country with over eight hundred billion television viewers. Europe should be a doddle for her!
 
I think we should send Jessie J with a 'Bang Bang' style collab with Jess Glynne and Ellie Goulding. Showcase the best of British music :disco:
 
I do genuinely believe a massive indie act like Coldplay could do it actually
 
Penelope said:
:D at the idea Coldplay have counted as indie any time since the mid-00s
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Or even early '00s. I mean really apart from their debut album nothing about them was ever 'indie'-sounding and that stupid documentary they did last year proved it. But one digresses.
 
Honestly, we could do much worse. People carp and mewl "oh, we had our phase of sending past it stars", but there's a bit of a difference between Robbie Williams and ENGELBERT HUMPERDINCK, or Bonnie Tyler sending something a million miles away from the stuff she was ACTUALLY big with
 
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