All inclusive Madonna CHART STATS, CERTS & STREAMS thread

Madonna - P - 300,000
Like A Virgin - 3xP - 900,000
True Blue - 7xP - 2,100,000
Who's That Girl - P - 300,000
You Can Dance - P - 300,000
Like A Prayer - 4xP - 1,200,000
I'm Breathless - P - 300,000
The Immaculate Collection - 13xP - 3,900,000
Erotica - 2xP - 600,000
Bedtime Stories - P - 300,000
Something to Remember - 3xP - 900,000
Evita - 2xP - 600,000
Ray Of Light - 6xP - 1,800,000
Music - 5xP - 1,500,000
GHV2 - 2xP - 600,000
American Life - P - 300,000
Confessions On A Dance Floor - 4xP - 1,200,000
The Confessions Tour - S - 60,000
Hard Candy - P - 300,000
Celebration - 2xP - 600,000
MDNA - G - 100,000
Rebel Heart - G - 100,000
Madame X - S - 60,000

Total - 18,320,000 certified album sales in the UK.
 
Madonna on the US album charts. Quite sad she's no not one of the top 10 album acts in the USA!

#1 for 3 wks — Like A Virgin (109 weeks)
#1 for 5 wks — True Blue (82 weeks)
#1 for 6 wks — Like A Prayer (77 weeks)
#1 for 1 wk — Music (55 weeks)
#1 for 1 wk — Confessions on a Dance Floor (37 weeks)
#1 for 1 wk — Hard Candy (30 weeks)
#1 for 1 wk — American Life (14 weeks)
#1 for 1 wk — MDNA (13 weeks)
#1 for 1 wk — Madame X (2 weeks)

#2 — The Immaculate Collection (148 weeks)
#2 — Ray of Light (78 weeks)
#2 — Erotica (53 weeks)
#2 — Evita (30 weeks)
#2 — I’m Breathless (25 weeks)
#2 — Rebel Heart (11 weeks)

#3 — Bedtime Stories (48 weeks)

#6 — Something to Remember (34 weeks)

#7 — Who’s That Girl (28 weeks)
#7 — GHV2 (18 weeks)
#7 — Celebration (17 weeks)

#8 — Madonna (168 weeks)

#10 — Sticky & Sweet Tour (4 weeks)

#14 — You Can Dance (22 weeks)

#15 — The Confessions Tour (6 weeks)

#33 — I’m Going to Tell You a Secret (4 weeks)

#90 — MDNA World Tour (1 week)

#115 — Remixed & Revisited (1 week)
 
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MADAME X: 2-14-21-46-43-OUT

FINALLY ENOUGH LOVE: 3-18-23-50-66-74-?

FEL has officially out-sharted Madame X
 
She's still top 100 on streaming though which I think is good. I'm pretty sure Madame X had lower streaming numbers (albeit higher physical sales - but it was a brand new album). So my positive spin on this is that her streaming figures are getting better.
 
She's doing better on the sales chart than the streaming one (62 v 87) but yes, I imagine Madame X was getting very few streams at all by a similar point.
 
Oh yeah I take it as a given that she'll be be higher on sales than streaming but the fact that she's still top 100 on streaming is good to me.

I think over 200K worldwide is pretty good going.
 
There's still something fundamentally wrong how she's transcended over into the streaming era. Most of her contemporaries are way ahead of her. She's closer in numbers to her 70s counterparts, not her 80s and 90s peers. As the biggest female pop star of all time, I'd say her performance on Spotify is comparatively shit. And I can't actually put a pin on it.
 
Spotify is shit and clueless then.

I bet most of her core fanbase use something else like Apple Music or Tidal :disco:
 
I've seen someone speculating on ukmix that the OCC may be counting streams of original versions towards this, rather than the remixes, because so many of the mixes on CD1 are so similar to the originals, and claiming that may be why The Immaculate Collection may not be charting any more.

I know that labels are allowed to direct streams to different albums for chart purposes (and hence the double counting for studio albums and compilations), but would they really be allowed to do different mixes, however 'similar' they are? And it's not like TIC was ever present on the chart anyway, was it? It's only had 22 weeks on the top 100 since the start of 2020.
 
I've done some drilling down into the Spotify figures.

45% of streams come from CD1 tracks
32% from CD2
23% from CD3

Those figures are from new streams since the album was released.

But the whole issue of the '48 million streams' for the album they claimed the first week which pissed me off in the other thread, really is utter bullshit. Nearly three quarters of those streams are for three mixes only (Celebration, GMAYL and GGW), all of which I believe have been available on Spotify for years.

Even now including all the streams for every track since release, the streams from those three mixes prior to the album's release are being counted as two thirds of the album's total streams. It's ludicrous!
 
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And as I said in the other thread, this isn't just a Madonna thing - everyone does it I'm sure. It just means that numbers being thrown around are utterly meaningless.
 
I've done some drilling down into the Spotify figures.

45% of streams come from CD1 tracks
32% from CD2
23% from CD3

Those figures are from new streams since the album was released.

But the whole issue of the '48 million streams' for the album they claimed the first week which pissed me off in the other thread, really is utter bullshit. Nearly three quarters of those streams are for three mixes only (Celebration, GMAYL and GGW), all of which I believe have been available on Spotify for years.

Even now including all the streams for every track since release, the streams from those three mixes prior to the album's release are being counted as two thirds of the album's total streams. It's ludicrous!

That's actually fraudulent marketing. I don't think anyone understands the industry enough or cares enough to raise the alarm but you cannot claim 48 million streams for the album - it's just not true. It's not how albums work.

Maybe they'll overhaul it at some point, which is often what happens, it just requires someone to set a precedent and put in a complaint. But yeah, it's ludicrous.
 
That's actually fraudulent marketing. I don't think anyone understands the industry enough or cares enough to raise the alarm but you cannot claim 48 million streams for the album - it's just not true. It's not how albums work.

Maybe they'll overhaul it at some point, which is often what happens, it just requires someone to set a precedent and put in a complaint. But yeah, it's ludicrous.
It's not Madonna's team claiming that. It's her instagram fan pages.
 
There's still something fundamentally wrong how she's transcended over into the streaming era. Most of her contemporaries are way ahead of her. She's closer in numbers to her 70s counterparts, not her 80s and 90s peers. As the biggest female pop star of all time, I'd say her performance on Spotify is comparatively shit. And I can't actually put a pin on it.
Not really. She's doing better than most of her '80s peers. I don't know where you're getting your figures from?
I'm not saying she's doing great on Spotify but her streaming numbers are consistently better than Whitney, Mariah (outside of Christmas season), Celine etc.
 
Not really. She's doing better than most of her '80s peers. I don't know where you're getting your figures from?
I'm not saying she's doing great on Spotify but her streaming numbers are consistently better than Whitney, Mariah (outside of Christmas season), Celine etc.

I don’t know whether you’re referring to current streaming or overall - I’m looking at total to date, at a song level. Whitney’s highs far exceed Madonna’s. As does Michael Jackson’s. There are many 80s artists like Springsteen, Bon Jovi. Prince isn’t far behind Madonna and he’s been on streaming for half the time she has.

I imagine that based on total per artist, she’ skews high. Because she has one of the largest catalogues for a major artist. Much bigger than Whitney for instance.

But considering that she has had several albums since Whitney died, and is still in the public limelight, you’d expect her rate of increase in the current streaming era to widely outpace her (and Prince for that matter, although he does still have minor releases now and again).

If we were talking about someone like, I don’t know, Tina Turner, or Gloria Estefan, it would be impressive. But I just think Madonna’s big hits should be much bigger in numbers, relatively speaking.
 
Whitney & MJ are both dead and mythologised.
A lot of her contemporaries from the '80s and '90s who had similar record sales to her like U2, REM, etc. are significantly lower than her.
Springsteen and Bon Jovi have significantly higher US streams than her but I would imagine their worldwide numbers are lower than hers.

The main issue behind why her worldwide figures aren't as good as they could be are because of her US numbers. If you take the USA out of it she'll be significantly better.
She was late to engage with the streaming game but I think her return to Warner and, yes, the new remix compilation and the new remixes (as much as the hardcore fans hate them) have done a lot to improve her figures.
 
David Bowie spent most of his career as not an alternative artist, not a pop artist to be fair. His sales were never huge, certainly not in America.

She needs a comeback album, or an expertly compiled Collection to get a bump at this point. Or put aside trying to engage with a new generation with your new stuff and bring the classics to the kids. They’re good enough to cross over. Maybe the remix album is the start of that.
 
Yeah
It’s coming

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God I love getting my life back to 80s Madonna.

We should have a thread about your Fave Madonna, ERAS TOUR if you will: 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s, and 20s. I know who would win :disco:
 
80s was the commercial peak and the monster hits
90s was the artistic peak. There were some peaks and troughs commercially but creatively she was giving.

So I'd go 90s.
 
There's a lot more breadth in the 90s as well. It's just that for me the absolute peak was in the 80s.
 
I mean those four enormous albums in the 80s would be enough for any other artist, until you consider that she gave us Erotica, Bedtime Stories and Ray Of Light in one decade. That's enough to close the discussion for me. And that's before you even get to the singles from The Immaculate Collection, Something To Remember, and the movie soundtracks.

Madonna in the 90s is the greatest decade for any artist ever, IMO.
 
80s was the commercial peak and the monster hits
90s was the artistic peak. There were some peaks and troughs commercially but creatively she was giving.

So I'd go 90s.
The lack of comma between “hits” and “90s” meant I took quite a long time to get that and was about to argue how her monster hits weren’t the 90s at all…
 

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