Eurovision 2021 - Semi Final 1 - LIVE 8PM!

Oh and LEST WE FORGET, Silvia's "behind the scenes" tv series where she was filmed helping out homeless people by driving past in her expensive car, throwing them copies of her new CD and shouting "DRIVE FAST, NOW!" as they came within 20 feet... :D
 
Also, there was the interview with one of the Eurovision editors where she claimed her meltdown after the semifinals occurred because SVANTE STOCKSELIUS (AND CAROLA???) HAD POISONED HER :D :D

But I'm worried that one has disappeared into the internet void :(
 
"Maybe you're my fantasy girls?

"Ah...HE'S SO SARCASTIC" :D

She just keeps giving!
 
Having seen Tusse whelm in comparison with the rest of the competition last night, I'm now convinced DOM TOP DANNY would have been a far more fabulous and eccentric addition to last night's show with his Jamiroquai-meets-IKEA performance :D Certainly not a potential winner, but would have been GREAT FUN.



I still think the best I've seen Tusse perform is during his MF reprises rather than the actually competitive performances.
 
Imagine if Dotter/Clara/Queen of Sweden had been there instead, not to mention KEiiNO for Norway too!
 
Sweden clearly should have sent ALVARO. There's a genuine gap for a cheesy latin pop track by a GUY this year.

Although it probably would have been as confusing to some viewers as the time that Norwegian lady painted herself orange and knocked off Mi Chico Latino :D

 
Danny and Alvaro’s songs were DOG SHIT.

I really hope Sweden bomb on Saturday so they’re prompted to rethink their song selection process. They’ve been resting on their laurels for too long and coasting by with mediocre jury fodder.
 
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I never cared for A Million Voices, the Swedish public obviously love Tusse, and he seems sweet, but it’s not working at Eurovision at all. I actually think CLARA could’ve stood out more, and would’ve been a great entry, hopefully she’s back for Melfest next year.
 
VoR said:
Hold on - Silvia fabulousness aside, Treble visited THIRTY SEVEN countries to promote an entry that finished 20th in a semi final with 22 points? :D
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If I recall it was an ALL EXPENSES SPARED AFFAIR i.e. a tour of the various STREET CORNERS of Europe where they were busking out of a suitcase.
 
The only friend at work I have who is interested in Eurovision called me today to rave about how much she loves Sweden. I didn’t really let up how dull I thought it was.
 
Penelope said:
I genuinely think everyone is just being completely histrionic over Sweden as ever and they'll be top ten with ease again on Saturday.
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No I just think it’s the biggest load of generic, uninspired tosh that they’ve sent in years. If they go top ten, it’ll be undeserved.
 
win_the_game said:
No I just think it’s the biggest load of generic, uninspired tosh that they’ve sent in years. If they go top ten, it’ll be undeserved.
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for a lot of people it’s the message that he attributes to the song that gives it its meaning. Often that can happen with a generically written song, that it comes to life because of who sings it. Tusse had to leave his whole family behind as a refugee when he was 13, and he’s not that much older than that now. Combined with the boldness he shows in wearing feminine clothing in a world that frowns on that, I think uninspired is not the word I would use for this entry, particularly in comparison to a great deal of others?
 
Yeah, this is the most generic tosh Sweden has sent since Las Vegas in 2005.

Sweden often feels overly calculating but they usually throw in at least one interesting twig to make the act passable as a new entry. This tosh is on a whole new level of safeness.

I’m happy for Tusse he didn’t become Bergendahlized but a deserved 15-20th place would absolutely help SVT rethink their game.
 
Suomi said:
for a lot of people it’s the message that he attributes to the song that gives it its meaning. Often that can happen with a generically written song, that it comes to life because of who sings it. Tusse had to leave his whole family behind as a refugee when he was 13, and he’s not that much older than that now. Combined with the boldness he shows in wearing feminine clothing in a world that frowns on that, I think uninspired is not the word I would use for this entry, particularly in comparison to a great deal of others?
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Unfortunately I’m not sure Tusse’s backstory is really coming across outside of Sweden.
 
Suomi said:
for a lot of people it’s the message that he attributes to the song that gives it its meaning. Often that can happen with a generically written song, that it comes to life because of who sings it. Tusse had to leave his whole family behind as a refugee when he was 13, and he’s not that much older than that now. Combined with the boldness he shows in wearing feminine clothing in a world that frowns on that, I think uninspired is not the word I would use for this entry, particularly in comparison to a great deal of others?
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Shame that the BBC yesterday ignored all of that in his intro and just said "he won a TV show!". Thankfully Sara Cox chipped in with his backstory afterwards.
 
Suomi said:
for a lot of people it’s the message that he attributes to the song that gives it its meaning. Often that can happen with a generically written song, that it comes to life because of who sings it. Tusse had to leave his whole family behind as a refugee when he was 13, and he’s not that much older than that now. Combined with the boldness he shows in wearing feminine clothing in a world that frowns on that, I think uninspired is not the word I would use for this entry, particularly in comparison to a great deal of others?
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But he didn’t write the song and most of us aren’t criticising Tusse here, he’s doing a good job for a boy his age.

The songwriting team and production team just felt uninspired here. Another issue is that the Swedish voting system helps these kinds of safe acts by punishing anything that might be just a bit divisive or risky.
 
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Unfortunately I’m not sure Tusse’s backstory is really coming across outside of Sweden.
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but that doesn’t change it? I was just explaining why people who do know it might have a different view of the entry being ‘uninspired’

Hak said:
But he didn’t write the song and most of us aren’t criticising Tusse here, he’s doing a good job for a boy his age. Another issue is that the Swedish voting system helps these kinds of safe acts by punishing anything that might be just a bit divisive or risky.
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But the fact that he didn’t write the song is my point - he brings the meaning to the song because of HIM.

and its hard to criticise the voting system he won in when the winner is 50% chosen by international juries? So why is there surprise that he is doing well in a system where the winner is also 50% chosen by international juries?
 
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The Swedish voting system is literally Swedish viewers plus essentially a direct analog of the Eurovision jury vote....if it results in safe entries it's because it's basically the perfect vetting process for Eurovision.
 
I don't really understand why everyone is so desperate every year for Sweden to do badly and for Italy to do well but I'm sure it's to do with a deep-seated sense of inadequacy on all your parts x
 
Tusse is generic but there IS something powerful about it, and yes it's not like "safe" doesn't do well. I mean it's better than dreary crap (Slovenia, Portugal) or total misfires (UK, Ireland) that aren't even fun in a car crash Moldova-esque way. To me it at least offers *something*. The production is solid, it's rousing, just not especially standout.

Honestly it's no more generic than Dami's entry was, she just happened to sell the shit out of it.
 
Youtube update plus calculation by population.

3.7m Russia
2.6m Ukraine
1.4m Azerbaijan
1.4m Cyprus
(930k Croatia)
769k Malta
764k Israel
684k Lithuania
(352k Romania)
386k Belgium
375k Norway
298k Sweden
(198k Australia)
(170k North Macedonia)
(170k Ireland)
(124k Slovenia)

769k Malta / 500,000 = 1.538
684k Lithuania / 2,800,000 = 0.244
1,400k Cyprus / 12,000,000 = 0.116
764k Israel / 9,400,000 = 0.081
375k Norway / 5,400,000 = 0.069
2,600k Ukraine / 41,500,000 = 0.062
386k Belgium / 11,500,000 = 0.033
298k Sweden / 10,400,000 = 0.028
3,700k Russia / 146,000,000 = 0.025
1,400k Azerbaijan / 93,000,000 = 0.015
 
Penelope said:
Youtube update plus calculation by population.

3.7m Russia
2.6m Ukraine
1.4m Azerbaijan
1.4m Cyprus
(930k Croatia)
769k Malta
764k Israel
684k Lithuania
(352k Romania)
386k Belgium
375k Norway
298k Sweden
(198k Australia)
(170k North Macedonia)
(170k Ireland)
(124k Slovenia)

769k Malta / 500,000 = 1.538
684k Lithuania / 2,800,000 = 0.244
1,400k Cyprus / 12,000,000 = 0.116
764k Israel / 9,400,000 = 0.081
375k Norway / 5,400,000 = 0.069
2,600k Ukraine / 41,500,000 = 0.062
386k Belgium / 11,500,000 = 0.033
298k Sweden / 10,400,000 = 0.028
3,700k Russia / 146,000,000 = 0.025
1,400k Azerbaijan / 93,000,000 = 0.015
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The big thing here is that Malta is now on pure external gains, as it has more views than the entire Maltese population!
 
Penelope said:
I don't really understand why everyone is so desperate every year for Sweden to do badly and for Italy to do well but I'm sure it's to do with a deep-seated sense of inadequacy on all your parts x
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I'm not desperate for them to do badly, I just think the wrong act was chosen this year. Eric Saade, Dotter and of course :StillYoung: were all great, fun entries that I would be rooting for. Tusse just isn't working for me at all. And Sweden seems stuck in a rut (songwise, if not resultswise) where them not qualifying might result in them changing it up a bit.

And Sweden is absolutely being held to a higher standard, possibly unfairly, but if they have an almost perfect system for choosing Eurovision entries, then we should in turn demand perfection. Or Eva & Ewa.
 
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