Who is going to win Eurovision 2021?

[Suomi]

The only similarity here is Croatia being far superior to both.

I agree, I woulda died for Tick Tock but here we are

 

[Rita]

Are the bookies usually on point with who they put as their favourites?

 

[dUb]

Are the bookies usually on point with who they put as their favourites?

Definitely!

Does a loon know the last time the winner wasn't from the top 2/3 in the odds?

 

[Alla]

Are the bookies usually on point with who they put as their favourites?

Yes but not before rehearsals. But usually they're pretty on point.

 

[Rita]

So it’s between Italy, France, and Malta.

 

[Suomi]

Does a loon know the last time the winner wasn't from the top 2/3 in the odds?

in 2011 France were the favourites and came mid-table

I think they’re completely bizarre this year - i will be shocked if Italy come higher than 5th

 

[Alla]

So it’s between Italy, France, and Malta.

And Iceland, and Ukraine, and San Marino...

 

[dUb]

in 2011 France were the favourites and came mid-table

I think they’re completely bizarre this year - i will be shocked if Italy come higher than 5th

ALLORA! Has anyone snuck up from nowhere (in the odds) to win in recent years?

 

[Suomi]

I think Ukraine 2016 were a surprise, Austria 2014 wasn’t considered until late into the rehearsals process, Azerbaijan 2011 but then nobody predicted such blatant cheating

 

[dUb]

Thank you, a loon!

 

[Samanta TinAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaAAaaaA]

This will be fuelled by semi 2 obviously, but ESC TRACKER https://esctracker.com/ currently showing

Switzerland
Portugal
Finland
Ukraine
Lithuania

as the top 5

EDIT that's just iTunes I didn't realise there were different TABS!

 

[Apoca]

Not the ugly people frrrrom FINLAND who don't even have a rrrreal make up artist.

 

[Diddy]

I think Ukraine 2016 were a surprise, Austria 2014 wasn’t considered until late into the rehearsals process, Azerbaijan 2011 but then nobody predicted such blatant cheating

That’s interesting, I watched a video today comparing bookies to results (presumably prerehearsal) and it says The Common Linnets were also ranked jn the 20s somewhere. Seems like they weren’t quite there in 2014 either

 

[Apoca]

That’s interesting, I watched a video today comparing bookies to results (presumably prerehearsal) and it says The Common Linnets were also ranked jn the 20s somewhere. Seems like they weren’t quite there in 2014 either

2014 was an odd year, wasn't it? Also strangely low on strong uptempos in the final. I think that kind of added to the initial unpredictability.

 

[Kratz]

Not the ugly people frrrrom FINLAND who don't even have a rrrreal make up artist.

Somebody has been spreading lies about me and I think it is YOU

 

[Hak]

How come Ukraine Got up to No. 2 at Spotify Sweden Viral??

 

[RaspberrySwirl]

Isn’t Italy always a big favourite (in recent years)?

 

[Soldi]

How come Ukraine Got up to No. 2 at Spotify Sweden Viral??

They’re at #4 in the UK today

 

[Penelope]

That’s interesting, I watched a video today comparing bookies to results (presumably prerehearsal) and it says The Common Linnets were also ranked jn the 20s somewhere. Seems like they weren’t quite there in 2014 either

They were completely unpredicted beforehand but they'd definitely entered the favourites after the semi

 

[Penelope]

Isn’t Italy always a big favourite (in recent years)?

Yep!

 

[Dark Carnival]

Malta or Italy

 

[Whatevar]

Cyprus have the best overall package IMO but being on first is a bit shit.

I can see Iceland getting a load of sympathy votes for not being able to take part live.

 

[Whatevar]

The San Marino song is rubbish though.

And I will be very cross if Malta wins - sounds like a Nessa rip off to me and her singing was crap.

 

[Alla]

I can see Iceland getting a load of sympathy votes for not being able to take part live.

I wonder if the casual viewer will know about it. They didn't say a word about it here.

 

[GinAg (39)]

The San Marino song is rubbish though.

And I will be very cross if Malta wins - sounds like a Nessa rip off to me and her singing was crap.

 

[ZenGiraffe]

The San Marino song is rubbish though.

Fuck, and I cannot emphasise this enough, OFF.

 

[Jacques]

I hate to admit it, and I still dislike him being considered the 'lost winner' of last year (we've seen how much rehearsals can change things and we didn't even get to that point last year ffs!), but I can't see anything but Iceland tbh and I've come to terms with it, for me it's far preferable to any of Italy, Switzerland or Ukraine. The fact it's not being performed live won't hurt it at all (the only way to know is that we see them in a hotel room rather than the green room, and commentators possibly bringing it up), and I'm not sure sympathy votes are much of a thing but if it ends up being such a tight year as predicted, even an extra 15-20 points could swing it. It's the one song I can see doing really well with both jury and televote. If not Iceland, I'd say France.

 

[Dark Carnival]

Ugh, please no, just ANYONE but Iceland.

 

[Soldi]

I think out of all the likely winners, Switzerland is the one I want to win the least.

 

[Apoca]

Ugh, please no, just ANYONE but Iceland.

Inclined to agree, really. To be honest, Iceland would be a "good winner" just like Duncan was, I guess - but ultimately, not for me.

 

[Rita]

@Administrator can we LOCK UP this evening?? Let’s get some of these 100 guests to LOG IN or MISS OUT.

 

[Saltwater]

I wonder if the casual viewer will know about it. They didn't say a word about it here.

They've said it about a billions time here.

 

[Rita]

@Administrator can we LOCK UP this evening?? Let’s get some of these 100 guests to LOG IN or MISS OUT.

Maybe NOT then...

 

[Soldi]

Maybe NOT then...

I think we’ve talked about live tweeting on the Moopy account so it would be a bit silly to have the forum private when we’re advertising the LOUNGE.

 

[Rita]

I think we’ve talked about live tweeting on the Moopy account so it would be a bit silly to have the forum private when we’re advertising the LOUNGE.

Even better. We may get some NEW BLOOD out of the whole affair.

 

[Penelope]

I think we should make people log in. As long as we're hot on approving registrations, what's the issue?

 

[Penelope]

Like if someone is actually PLANNING on doing the tweeting, sure, maybe rethink it, but if it's just at the 'we've talked about it' stage then it feels a waste.

 

[Diddy]

I think we should make people log in. As long as we're hot on approving registrations, what's the issue?

what’s to gain though?

 

[D5K]

I confess I'm not 100% clear on how it works but if people can't see anything we're posting, why on earth would they be motivated to register and participate?

Surely we want people to see the endless Sam Teen memes, raven queen worship, and Senhit conspiracy theories and decide that "this is the place for me"?

 

[Dark Carnival]

PEOPLE DON’T LIKE TO BE FORCED TO DO THINGS