Coronavirus
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If you lived in the EU, you’d get the EU pass. But you don’t
Kate
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Yes. Well it lasts a month as Ellie says but it just re-generates every time you press "get my pass". Definitely no tests needed.
Ellie
Super talented triple threat
Yes, it's a bit fiddly to register with the NHS app as you have to do a face recognition thing and upload a scan of your passport which then links to your NHS record, but it took me about 15 minutes. Was a nightmare doing it for my mum as she didn't understand any of it. But once it's done it's done.
Kate
mildly communist
If you've got any letters from your GP your NHS number should be on there.
Kate
mildly communist
I'm sure I didn't have to do that!
Ellie
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Oh I did. It was all new to me since I had only just registered to my new GP since being de-registered from my old me. Had to do the same for mum too, who didn't;t have as much info as I don't think she'd opted in for digital services.
Cloud
Such a silly boy kisser
My LFT box is a different new type, almost like a halfway one:
No throat swab, 15 mins for results/void after 30, smaller and more rounded test cassette but not as different as the ones in the green boxes. The extraction tubes are pre-filled which is neat but the foil is impossible to remove with the tab so I end up resorting to a knife.
No throat swab, 15 mins for results/void after 30, smaller and more rounded test cassette but not as different as the ones in the green boxes. The extraction tubes are pre-filled which is neat but the foil is impossible to remove with the tab so I end up resorting to a knife.
Cloud
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Yeah you're meant to disregard any results after 30 mins on the new ones or I think it's "not long after 30 mins" on the old ones
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Oh, I didn’t know that. I didn’t have any symptoms anyway, and was only testing at that point as it was rather rampant in my area. It was a very unpleasant experience, so I didn’t want to go through that again unless I have to.
win_the_game
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So I’ve heard I might not be returning back to the office until next spring at the earliest. That’s two years of working from home.
I’m so over this.
I’m so over this.
Apoca
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I've been back to work full-time for over a month now and I'm so glad to have a 8-5 office schedule again. We're still granted quite a number of home office days per month but I don't even want to take them very often at the moment. Plus it integrates really nicely with going to the gym from 5.30pm until 7pm. I've missed having a borderline normal daily rhythm.
Chances are this is not going to last all the way until November though.
Chances are this is not going to last all the way until November though.
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Is it likely Germany will go back in to another lockdown?
Apoca
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I hope we can avoid it but after a lull in June and July the trend has been going up really rather clearly.
In my district they're literally throwing vaccines in all direction, offer house visits etc and only 52% have received one dose / 50% are fully vaccinated. With those numbers, I don't see how we can avoid local and partial lockdowns heading into autumn.
In my district they're literally throwing vaccines in all direction, offer house visits etc and only 52% have received one dose / 50% are fully vaccinated. With those numbers, I don't see how we can avoid local and partial lockdowns heading into autumn.
Saltwater
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My fully vaccinated dad has a 38 fever tonight and my yet unvaccinated mom a 39. They did two self-tests each earlier that came back negative. I was supposed to leave tomorrow for vacation but obviously I won't coz am worried they might have it and may need help. It's weird though cause i see them every day and am still OK am wondering how is it possible that they have it and i don't.
My nephews school opened last week with thousands of kids and no masks. And now he has no taste or smell and is waiting for his test results back. It’s so frustrating because this could so easily be avoided
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Have been reading about Israel this morning. Having been the country seen as leading the way throughout the pandemic by rolling out the vaccine to their population in record time they now seem to be experiencing a fourth wave due to the effectiveness of those who have been double jabbed waning. This is what I was worrying about. They seem to think the vaccines start to lose effectiveness after 6 months? Are we likely to see the same shortly unless we started using boosters on the elderly and vulnerable NOW?
ZenGiraffe
Who is SHE though?
Quite possibly, since we're almost 9 months from our first vaccinations. I believe we have stocks for booster jabs so they'll be starting pretty soon.
ZenGiraffe
Who is SHE though?
Indeed here is the story
What I am confused about is why they wouldn't offer it to all adults? What is the benefit of not giving a booster to the younger end of the scale?
Covid: UK vaccine booster scheme likely to start in September - Sajid Javid
The proposed rollout of third doses is likely to start in September, the health secretary says.
www.bbc.co.uk
What I am confused about is why they wouldn't offer it to all adults? What is the benefit of not giving a booster to the younger end of the scale?
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Indeed here is the story
Covid: UK vaccine booster scheme likely to start in September - Sajid Javid
The proposed rollout of third doses is likely to start in September, the health secretary says.www.bbc.co.uk
What I am confused about is why they wouldn't offer it to all adults? What is the benefit of not using a booster to the younger end of the scale?
It may well be TOO LATE by then, no? If we fall in to the same trajectory as Israel then the next wave could be picking up traction shortly.
Iguana
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My uncle lives in Israel and he has already received his third dose!
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I’m guessing since the main benefit of the vaccine is preventing serious illness and hospitalisation (with much less of an effect against transmission of the Delta variant) it makes less sense to use it on people whose risk of ending up in hospital is low to begin with. Maybe.Indeed here is the story
Covid: UK vaccine booster scheme likely to start in September - Sajid Javid
The proposed rollout of third doses is likely to start in September, the health secretary says.www.bbc.co.uk
What I am confused about is why they wouldn't offer it to all adults? What is the benefit of not giving a booster to the younger end of the scale?
Ellie
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Maybe, but there’s just a bigger risk of it being transmitted across young people which in turn could cause yet another variant.
Is there any solid data yet on whether vaccines really do seriously reduce the likelihood of infecting others?
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The cases are almost as high as at the peak of their pandemic, and hospitalisations and deaths are rising amongst those who have been double jabbed. Around half of new cases now are those who were double jabbed, including vulnerable and elderly.
Kate
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Didn't Israel also make the first two jabs too close together?
Iguana
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I think they did them 3 weeks apart. The BBC published an article saying the latest research shows the length of time between jabs has little effect - so who knows!
Kate
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I'm sure they said the other day that it did matter! Everything still changing all the time then
(I don't know what this smiley is but I'm assuming it means
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Iguana
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It was this article https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58257863 ("They analysed two and a half million tests results from 743,526 participants in the UK's Covid-19 household-infection survey - led by Oxford University and the Office for National Statistics") - which says:I'm sure they said the other day that it did matter! Everything still changing all the time then
(I don't know what this smiley is but I'm assuming it means
Other key points from the research include:
- People who have had Covid-19 gain even more antibodies when fully vaccinated
- The time between first and second doses does not affect the vaccines' effectiveness
- Younger people gain more protection from vaccination than older
Kate
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Hmm. Effectiveness doesn't necessarily mean the same as longevity though. Could be they've not had enough time to check that yet. We shall see...
Iguana
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That's true! It's a bit of a vague summary of what is probably something quite specific in the report!
Kate
mildly communist
I'm reading the report because I am a nerd 
It looks like they only looked at <9 weeks vs >=9 weeks for the gap!
It looks like they only looked at <9 weeks vs >=9 weeks for the gap!
Kate
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This is why STATS should never be interpreted by laymen!
Iguana
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Oh yes, that's completely different to what the BBC inferred!
Kate
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Yup. The table at the end of the report compares a gap of <9 weeks to >=9 weeks, and only looks at the effectiveness 14 days after second dose.
So nothing can be inferred about the effectiveness, say, 6 months after two doses with a 3 week gap.
So nothing can be inferred about the effectiveness, say, 6 months after two doses with a 3 week gap.
lolly
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Right Said Fred frontman Richard Fairbrass still has no intention of getting the Covid-19 vaccine after falling ill with the virus.
The I’m Too Sexy singer, 67, became unwell last Saturday and was taken by ambulance to Park Hospital in Slough, Berkshire.
The star needed oxygen as he struggled to breathe and spent four nights in hospital before he was sent home to recover.
His hospitalisation comes six months after he branded the vaccination a ‘scam’.
Richard told the MailOnline: ‘I’ve had a bit of Covid, it wasn’t too bad. I was a little breathless, I felt very tired.
‘But full credit to the NHS, they were non-judgemental and very open to how you wanted to be treated – and my treatment was just keeping my oxygen levels up for a week.’
The performer added that if the data shows it is safe to take in 2023, he will have the injection then.
The Covid-19 vaccines approved for use in the UK have met strict standards of safety, quality and effectiveness.
They have had to go through several stages of clinical trials before they can be approved for use and have been tested on thousands of people in the UK and around the world.
The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine has an ‘estimated study completion date’ of May 2023.
It is standard practice for the a vaccination to continue to be monitored after it has been approved.
Richard, who has attended anti-lockdown protests in London with his Right Said Fred bandmate brother Fred Fairbrass, previously branded the jab a ‘scam’.
He claimed to The Sun in February this year: ‘I believe the whole thing is a scam. I really do. I’ve been asked to have my vaccination, but I have refused.
‘I look at it in the same way that people were advised to keep smoking because it was good for the throat. Or, “Isn’t asbestos great – it’ll keep your farm clean.”
The I’m Too Sexy singer, 67, became unwell last Saturday and was taken by ambulance to Park Hospital in Slough, Berkshire.
The star needed oxygen as he struggled to breathe and spent four nights in hospital before he was sent home to recover.
His hospitalisation comes six months after he branded the vaccination a ‘scam’.
Richard told the MailOnline: ‘I’ve had a bit of Covid, it wasn’t too bad. I was a little breathless, I felt very tired.
‘But full credit to the NHS, they were non-judgemental and very open to how you wanted to be treated – and my treatment was just keeping my oxygen levels up for a week.’
The performer added that if the data shows it is safe to take in 2023, he will have the injection then.
The Covid-19 vaccines approved for use in the UK have met strict standards of safety, quality and effectiveness.
They have had to go through several stages of clinical trials before they can be approved for use and have been tested on thousands of people in the UK and around the world.
The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine has an ‘estimated study completion date’ of May 2023.
It is standard practice for the a vaccination to continue to be monitored after it has been approved.
Richard, who has attended anti-lockdown protests in London with his Right Said Fred bandmate brother Fred Fairbrass, previously branded the jab a ‘scam’.
He claimed to The Sun in February this year: ‘I believe the whole thing is a scam. I really do. I’ve been asked to have my vaccination, but I have refused.
‘I look at it in the same way that people were advised to keep smoking because it was good for the throat. Or, “Isn’t asbestos great – it’ll keep your farm clean.”
Cloud
Such a silly boy kisser
It's probably best I don't state where my anxiety is making me think this is going to go, particularly with cases starting to accelerate (just as they did this time last year, a week or two before the schools went back). Indeed, Tim Spector (ZOE guy) and John Campbell (a voice I respect on the subject) are both saying worrying things about waning immunity. And as usual, we're doing things FAR too late. Antibodies have been known for AGES to wane after 3 months, we should've been doing booster jabs weeks ago.