All inclusive Madonna CHART STATS, CERTS & STREAMS thread

To put it in context, she gained about 4.5 million listeners in the last 3 months.
This time last year she had 15 million monthly listeners - now she has nearly 22 million.
Love them or not, those new remixes & the TikTok strategy are working.
 
The obsession of this topic is quite something.

It's giving me Dotmusic Madonna Forum vibes and I LIVE.

We need some more loons. God they fun to taunt.

Andreask DEAD.
 
Wow MadonnaNation have topic titles such as:

VILEY MINOGUE
MILEY VIRUS
PARIAH CAREY
S!NK
JENNIFER HOPEZ
DUA SLEEPA
HATEY PERRY
CELINE PEE-ON
 
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Wow MadonnaNation have topic titles such as:

VILEY MINOGUE
MILEY VIRUS
PARIAH CAREY
S!NK
JENNIFER HOPEZ
DUA SLEEPA
HATEY PERRY
CELINE PEE-ON
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Yes and it was exactly that sort of behaviour that prompted me from stepping down as moderator a while ago. I barely post there now.
They've not really moved with the times.
 
It's just sad when you consider that most of these 'jokes' are by men in their 40s and 50s at this point..
 
lolly said:
Is that largely due to the Dua duet?
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I can’t say personally but I doubt it. There’s a large stake in him being in the top 5 biggest selling acts of all time globally. That said, I imagine the various projects he’s been involved in the last couple of decades have helped keep him relevant to an audience beyond his 70s and 80s fans.
 
Ag said:
Wow MadonnaNation have topic titles such as:

VILEY MINOGUE
MILEY VIRUS
PARIAH CAREY
S!NK
JENNIFER HOPEZ
DUA SLEEPA
HATEY PERRY
CELINE PEE-ON
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Imagine having the word Stink right in front of you, but landing on Sink instead.

A penny for some insight.
 
Elton's re-emergence in the last few years have been genius. The Dua and Ed duets surely are key with the streaming figures, but yes, the film worked wonders and I love it :disco:
 
For some reason, with pre-2000 artists, I thought Celine would be up with Madonna, just for her famous classics that get wheeled out
 
Ag said:
Wow MadonnaNation have topic titles such as:

VILEY MINOGUE
MILEY VIRUS
PARIAH CAREY
S!NK
JENNIFER HOPEZ
DUA SLEEPA
HATEY PERRY
CELINE PEE-ON
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Does Coked Up Baby Boy still post? I loved him.
 
Here's a list of the classic artists that now regularly feature in the UK Albums Top 100 with their greatest hits album, in the age of streaming:

Fleetwood Mac
Eminem
ABBA
Elton John
Queen
Oasis
Michael Jackson
Bob Marley
The Beatles
Whitney Houston
Elvis Presley
David Bowie
Billy Joel
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Celine Dion
Stevie Wonder
Britney Spears
Phil Collins
The Bee Gees

...and not a WHIFF of The Immaculation Collection or Celebration. That's shocking, honestly. For someone whose legacy was bolstered by longevity, she has seemingly fell out of fashion in a major way in the last few years.

I even spotted luminaries such as 50 Cent and Maroon 5 with compilations in last week's chart...
 
Her Greatest Hits have never been that MAJOR here to be honest. She never really got that project right.
 
Does the UK chart allocate any of her streams to her GH albums? I know in the States certain streams will automatically be credited to a GH, rather than the parent album, in many cases. The effects seems arbitrary but I'm sure there is some rhyme or reason to it. The Weeknd's GH has floated around the top 10 and 20 for the better part of a year, for example, but probably sold a total of 40k pure sales because of this. I don't know if that's also favoring certain artists in the UK that aren't Madonna.
 
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Does the UK chart allocate any of her streams to her GH albums? I know in the States certain streams will automatically be credited to a GH, rather than the parent album, in many cases. The effects seems arbitrary but I'm sure there is some rhyme or reason to it. The Weeknd's GH has floated around the top 10 and 20 for the better part of a year, for example, but probably sold a total of 40k pure sales because of this. I don't know if that's also favoring certain artists in the UK that aren't Madonna.
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From the OCC chart rules


Where a track appears on more than one album by an artist, streams of this track will be attributed equally to each studio album and a maximum of one greatest hits album (the hits title with the highest sales DUS for that given week, or other hits title nominated in advance by label)
 
lolly said:
From the OCC chart rules


Where a track appears on more than one album by an artist, streams of this track will be attributed equally to each studio album and a maximum of one greatest hits album (the hits title with the highest sales DUS for that given week, or other hits title nominated in advance by label)
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Hmm I guess this is somewhat inconsequential for most artists unless they are streaming powerhouses who happen to have a GH, like the Weeknd or Maroon 5. TIC and Celebration not being listed probably has more to do with Warner not aggressively pressing or discounting them.
 
To be honest though, whilst this year has seen some great streaming gains for her, she really does seem to struggle somewhat from vague research? At least compared to the above list who seem to have a good few massive songs each that count toward their respective GH.
 
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She also has the ULTIMATE greatest hits package in TIC. It’s what compilations are supposed to be; the right set of songs from a particular era with no filler or padding whatsoever, that perfectly captures a specific successful era. and that album is the biggest singles run of any artist ever. There’s no competition, not Whitney, not MJ, not Gaga. Only ABBA Gold comes close. It should be right up there.
 
TIC was banished to the budget chart for a long time and there has never been any reinvestment in it. Her label has been more focused on Celebration since. Then of course there were the wilderness years of the Interscope deal so there is a bit of a hill to climb back up and remember she is not dead but also still not a 'safe' artist and not gaining new fans and older fans are a bit put off by her not pandering to them etc. etc

I still think she's doing pretty well all things considered and all this TikTok stuff and the new vinyl remix stuff just goes to show how things can turn around if she has a decent label behind her.
 
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I am hopeful that this will be the start of a proper certification update campaign now that she is back with Warner and her 40th anniversary is coming up etc. Especially in the USA.
 
I'd like to see a breakdown of its sales. It must be very pure sales (and particularly physical and CD) heavy.
 
Suedey said:
I am hopeful that this will be the start of a proper certification update campaign now that she is back with Warner and her 40th anniversary is coming up etc. Especially in the USA.
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Fair for the US, but UK certs are automatic - doesn’t matter who she is with or whether it is wanted or not, each week any breaching the threshold are done.
 
Devil said:
Fair for the US, but UK certs are automatic - doesn’t matter who she is with or whether it is wanted or not, each week any breaching the threshold are done.
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Yeah I guess I was mostly referring to the USA where she is rather undercertified and there was no incentive from Warner to encourage her and her management to update them during her Interscope (wilderness) years
 
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Devil said:
Fair for the US, but UK certs are automatic - doesn’t matter who she is with or whether it is wanted or not, each week any breaching the threshold are done.
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But this doesn’t explain why Madonna/First Album and LAV are undercertified in the UK though? Unless I’m mistaken
 
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Suedey said:
But this doesn’t explain why Madonna and LAV are undercertified in the Uk though? Unless I’m mistaken
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I see lots of posts on ukmix regarding various acts where albums are evidently undercertified. For whatever reason I don't think the automatic certification always happens.
 
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But this doesn’t explain why Madonna and LAV are undercertified in the Uk though? Unless I’m mistaken
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Pre I think like 1994 or a few years before was different certification levels and a slightly different compiler or something, which can sometimes get in the way. Also they used multipliers back then as they didn’t count every sale, and occasionally these get weighted up or down.

How much are they under certified by? Does seem weird as it is a very onto system they have now that they publish weekly, so it must be something to do with the age of them.
 
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