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Vaccinated? I barely know Ed!

  • I've been vaccinated with the Pfizer version

    Votes: 49 46.7%

  • I've been vaccinated with the AstraZeneca version

    Votes: 26 24.8%

  • Bitch, I’m Moderna!

    Votes: 19 18.1%

  • I've been vaccinated with a different version

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I have not been vaccinated

    Votes: 2 1.9%

  • I've been vaccinated with the Janssen/J&J version

    Votes: 2 1.9%

  • I've had TWO (2) doses of vaccine!

    Votes: 31 29.5%

  • I've had THREE (3) doses of vaccine!

    Votes: 32 30.5%

  • I've had FOUR (4) doses of vaccine!

    Votes: 10 9.5%
  • Total voters
    105
Apocalypt Flyer said:
My Dad is over 70 and he hasn't been made an offer yet.

So maybe you and I will be lucky and get a job in October with the way things are going on the mainland :disco:
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My mum and sister have been Pfizered in Qatar. I have a bigger chance of getting mine there than in France.
 
Some of the rich Middle Eastern nations are smashing the vaccinations.
 
Iguana said:
When does Moopy get HERD IMMUNITY?
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we've got it. Group orgy now?

OK glad to hear that some others didn't get second appointment booked - it seems to vary from centre to centre. (Mine was at Swimarayan School @Star - despite Wembley centre being 5 minute walk from me...!)
 
I see that Le Figaro ran an online poll which has over 100,000 votes, asking whether the AZ rollout should have been suspended. 55% responded no, 45% yes. I think in the UK there would be a stronger feeling against suspending any of the vaccines
 
Iguana said:
I see that Le Figaro ran an online poll which has over 100,000 votes, asking whether the AZ rollout should have been suspended. 55% responded no, 45% yes. I think in the UK there would be a stronger feeling against suspending any of the vaccines
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I'm actually surprised a majority said no! Seeing as Le Figaro readers are mostly anti-vaxers, right wingers and karens.
 
We're about to fuck this all up again aren't we, by falling out with URSULA et al.
 
Iguana said:
We're about to fuck up the EU banning exports because their rollout has been slow?
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Perhaps the rollout has been slow because a third of the jabs you’re having have come from the EU, same goes for most of those given out in Canada, etc.
 
Dark Carnival said:
Perhaps the rollout has been slow because a third of the jabs you’re having have come from the EU, same goes for most of those given out in Canada, etc.
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It's true, but I would attribute that to the EU taking control over the process for Member States and (in my view negligently) not putting enough orders in early. I also read in this FT article that, as a result of scaremongering about AZ, a significant number of people in Europe are refusing to take it and so stockpiles are growing. So that's presumably part of the issue, too. And that was before the "blood clot" suspension.

I read that the threat by the EU to block exports is in relation to the Pfizer vaccine rather than the AZ vaccine (which is odd given that they've been putting political pressure on AZ). I wonder if that's because people are refusing to take AZ so the focus is now on Pfizer. In relation to Pfeizer, The Independent reports:

Asked if this included invoking Article 122, which could result in the bloc effectively seizing production or waiving intellectual property rights to secure vaccine supplies for member states, [Ursula von der Leyen] said: “All options are on the table."

 
Still, it's rubbish that anyone has to wait.

And what about other countries outside of "the West"? I know we/the EU is going to give stock away after our populations have been vaccinated, but the fact that this means other countries have to wait is also rubbish. I feel pangs of guilt about that.
 
Iguana said:
It's true, but I would attribute that to the EU taking control over the process for Member States and (in my view negligently) not putting enough orders in early. I also read in this FT article that, as a result of scaremongering about AZ, a significant number of people in Europe are refusing to take it and so stockpiles are growing. So that's presumably part of the issue, too. And that was before the "blood clot" suspension.

I read that the threat by the EU to block exports is in relation to the Pfizer vaccine rather than the AZ vaccine (which is odd given that they've been putting political pressure on AZ). I wonder if that's because people are refusing to take AZ so the focus is now on Pfizer. In relation to Pfeizer, The Independent reports:

Asked if this included invoking Article 122, which could result in the bloc effectively seizing production or waiving intellectual property rights to secure vaccine supplies for member states, [Ursula von der Leyen] said: “All options are on the table."
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The whole AZ debacle is definitely on the EU (the states rather than the Union really). Though I’m expecting that to be resolved as soon as the EMA gives its green light (AGAIN :eyes: ) today, specially given that the reaction to stopping the rollout has actually been pretty negative.
Either way, I’m all from the EU stopping to try to please everyone and actually act like a dictatorship for once, I mean if countries like the US are keeping all their vaccines for themselves, I don’t see why we should keep trying to save the world before ourselves. GIVE ME MY BLOODY JAB GOD DAMMIT.
 
Iguana said:
Still, it's rubbish that anyone has to wait.

And what about other countries outside of "the West"? I know we/the EU is going to give stock away after our populations have been vaccinated, but the fact that this means other countries have to wait is also rubbish. I feel pangs of guilt about that.
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Macron was blabbing about sending 5% of EU jabs to poorer countries, though I don’t know if this still stands in the current vaccine WAR.
 
Iguana said:
I know we/the EU is going to give stock away after our populations have been vaccinated, but the fact that this means other countries have to wait is also rubbish. I feel pangs of guilt about that.
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Dark Carnival said:
I don’t see why we should keep trying to save the world before ourselves. GIVE ME MY BLOODY JAB GOD DAMMIT.
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Unfortunate timing :D

I get your point though, it must be hugely frustrating and it's feeding into all our anxiety by now I'm sure
 
The island is now cancelling all people booked in for vaccs between the ages of 40-49 because of the shortage. Looks like I got mine just in time.

I really hope this doesn't delay lockdown ending :(
 
Many healthy Londoners in their 40s have already had their jabs because London has been whizzing through theirs, so now with the delay there’s a north south divide for vaccinations. It was only a matter of time.

also not much being said about the fact that AZ is being sold at cost price and is not reaping the profits that Pfizer is. I wonder if that has anything to do with the ‘concerns’ about AZ, surely not :eyes:
 
Yep. I see Cyprus and Italy have already confirmes they will resume AZ jabs today.

In other new, China is now accepting foreign visitors who have been vaccinated....as long as the vaccine came from China. :basil:
 
bypass said:
Yep. I see Cyprus and Italy have already confirmes they will resume AZ jabs today.

In other new, China is now accepting foreign visitors who have been vaccinated....as long as the vaccine came from China. :basil:
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France is resuming as well
 
Dark Carnival said:
France is resuming as well
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Yes but because of all the bad press surrounding AZ in Europe, apparently only 20% of French people have confidence in it. I'm pro-EU and anti-Brexit (bien sur), but I think the whole AZ fiasco in Europe has been really unfortunate politicking on the part of the EU to be honest. And the only people that will suffer as a consequence will be EU citizens.
 
I read that France is only offering AZ to over-55s as reports of blood clots had only been for younger people, so the messaging is still wonky.
 
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Iguana said:
I read that France is only offering AZ to over-55s based as reports of blood clots had only been for younger people, so the messaging is still wonky.
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Howling that a vaccine is so clever that it only causes blood clots in younger people.
 
Every bit of bad press decreases the rate that we get to herd immunity. I'm not saying not to report on it, but the media and governments need to be a bit more responsible
 
I don't think we'll see AZ back in Scandinavia for a while yet
 
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