Next Tory leader/ UK Prime Minister (2022)

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Who's not getting through today then? The likely assumption would be Zahawi, Braverman and Hunt.
 
Mordaunt is asked what seems to be a question about trans, and how you define a woman. (It is not clear, because the questioner is not using a microphone, and so TV viewers cannot hear.)

Mordaunt replies:
It was Margaret Thatcher who said every prime minister needs a Willie. A woman like me does not have one.
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:manson::manson::manson:
 
Kratz said:
At least she didn't mention Heidi Range
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I love the Sugababes

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I think Suella might pull through, the Brexiteer crowd seem to be rallying around her. Possibly at Badenoch’s expense?
 
I'm STILL KINDA HERE for SUELLA4PM. I'm not ENTIRELY sure why I want to subject myself to a few years of THAT but it would surely be COMEDY GOLD.
 
Oh god...as much as there is an argument for her being one of the less out-right awful(although still awful ones) I also think she's probably the only one the public would be prepared to give a chance(even Sunak I think would struggle against Labour now) and thus landing us with these fuckers for another 5 years.

Its a dilemna.
 
bypass said:
Oh god...as much as there is an argument for her being one of the less out-right awful(although still awful ones) I also think she's probably the only one the public would be prepared to give a chance(even Sunak I think would struggle against Labour now) and thus landing us with these fuckers for another 5 years.

Its a dilemna.
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And I think this is exactly what will draw Conservative members to her, it's as much about who can beat Labour as it is about policy.
 
Sheena said:
I'm WAGERING he's likely as BIG A CUNT as she is
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Although HANDS UP, he slagged off the Tories for their LGBT record, saying any Tory is "complicit", so FAIR PLAY

Wonder what he thinks about his sister and her WILLY?
 
I'm just quite enjoying the fact our currently most likely future PM has a tattooed muscle queen twin brother.

THAT IS IT THOUGH. I repeat what I've said. She's a huge fucking danger that could see the Tories in power into the 2030s.
 
Sadly he appears to have shut his whole social media down. I presume not to distract or contradict from his sister.
 
Ag said:
I'm just quite enjoying the fact our currently most likely future PM has a tattooed muscle queen twin brother.
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Whilst I appreciate Penny's LGB support, her current anti- trans rhetoric doesn't fill me with hope that he's had that much real influence...
 
Ag said:
Sadly he appears to have shut his whole social media down. I presume not to distract or contradict from his sister.
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Or even, I imagine it is pretty tiring to have people piling on to ask you about your EVIL TWIN, and he just wants peace.
 
Sheena said:
Whilst I appreciate Penny's LGB support, her current anti- trans rhetoric doesn't fill me with hope that he's had that much real influence...
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I think she knows as well as anyone following this race and the current state of the Tories that she won't win broad enough support to become leader if she doesn't at least pay lip service to the culture wars that the party's right are INSISTENT on igniting.

her previous, very recent public support for trans people suggests she's saying what she has to say to snatch the win here. that in itself is alarming, of course, but I don't believe any current rhetoric (and what she's said has nothing on Braverman, Badenoch etc.) will translate into policy if she becomes PM.
 
Jark said:
I think she knows as well as anyone following this race and the current state of the Tories that she won't win broad enough support to become leader if she doesn't at least pay lip service to the culture wars that the party's right are INSISTENT on igniting.

her previous, very recent public support for trans people suggests she's saying what she has to say to snatch the win here. that in itself is alarming, of course, but I don't believe any current rhetoric (and what she's said has nothing on Braverman, Badenoch etc.) will translate into policy if she becomes PM.
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So she actually doesn't believe any of the shit she's coming out with and is just doing it to win votes so she's not that bad?

OOOOOOK...
 
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I want Penny for no other reason than I don’t want Truss

We had Theresa already, I can’t bear another few years of awkward behaviour, terrible dresses, embarrassing soundbites from trying to sound cool and hip and attending the G7 looking like a receptionist who got lost and wandered onto the stage

Even if they’re evil can we have someone with a bit of GRAVITAS please (is Penny that person, I don’t know her)
 
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Sheena said:
So she actually doesn't believe any of the shit she's coming out with and is just doing it to win votes so she's not that bad?

OOOOOOK...
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Isn’t that what every single one of them does?

“I know I voted against gay marriage 73 times but I like the gays now, especially the ones that vote for me”
 
funky said:
Isn’t that what every single one of them does?

“I know I voted against gay marriage 73 times but I like the gays now, especially the ones that vote for me”
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That wasn't my point. But throwing a previously well held belief under the bus doesn't make you any better than those who Jark compared her to. Some may argue it's a lot worse than sticking to your guns.
 
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That wasn't my point. But throwing a previously well held belief under the bus doesn't make you any better than those who Jark compared her to. Some may argue it's a lot worse than sticking to your guns.
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Oh I agree. I’m just using the opportunity to nail them all to the wall. They’re all as bad as each other. The difference seems to lie on how much they’re willing to pretend and how much they’re so backward in their views they can’t even hide it.
 
Sheena said:
That wasn't my point. But throwing a previously well held belief under the bus doesn't make you any better than those who Jark compared her to. Some may argue it's a lot worse than sticking to your guns.
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some may argue you say what you have to say to secure a position over dangerous people who actually want to do harm. i am not saying it's pretty, or particularly moral. i am saying it's quite clear that Pen's statement about "biological women" was a riposte to Badenoch briefing against her, and Pen needing to secure votes from people on the far right.
 
Jark said:
some may argue you say what you have to say to secure a position over dangerous people who actually want to do harm.
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And now she's some kind of SAVIOUR, leading us all away from the EVIL RIGHT?

What ARE you banging on about? :D
 
Jark said:
Pen needing to secure votes from people on the far right.
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It's about that, FULL STOP.

Remember, this is the woman that sat SILENT through pretty much all of BORIS' nonsense, so scared she was of rocking the boat and ruining a potential run at the crown.
 
Sheena said:
And now she's some kind of SAVIOUR, leading us all away from the EVIL RIGHT?

What ARE you banging on about? :D
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wow, somebody's reactionary today. i never said that. look at it for what it is -- a choice between candidates who are hardline anti-trans right, who put up "men" and "women" signs on bathrooms in venues they come to speak in, vs. somebody who made a vague twitter statement about biological women because the party demands a stance on this. who do you think is more likely to erode trans rights in they make it into office?

not everything is a binary.
 
Sheena said:
Remember, this is the woman that sat SILENT through pretty much all of BORIS' nonsense, so scared she was of rocking the boat and ruining a potential run at the crown.
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she was minister of state for trade policy, not chancellor of the exchequer. she has never aligned herself with Boris or done his dirty work, unlike Truss or Suella.
 
Jark said:
she was minister of state for trade policy, not chancellor of the exchequer. she has never aligned herself with Boris or done his dirty work, unlike Truss or Suella.
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Because she wasn't ever really in a position to do so.
 
And on a more serious note, the last thing a community like this should do is let the Tory leadership divide us.
 
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